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I really didnt want to have to post this here, I have never posted negatively about anyone anymore, but then again, no one has ever treated me poorly before. I want to preface this by saying; I am not without fault here. I told Mr. Palucci that I wanted a knife, and then changed my mind two days later. Does that make me a flake? Probably. Should I have made up my mind before ordering? Definitely. Does that mean that I should listen to threats and insults on Bladeforums and over private email? No. I know nothing about Vinnie except that he told me he does not sell knives for a living. I know nothing about him personally, and Im not trying to drag his name through the dirt, but I feel the way he does business needs to be known by other potential customers. This is the reference thread:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=179622
This whole thing started about a week ago when I ordered a Strider Model BT from Vinnie on the 25th of Feb. The next day through browsing the forums I realized that the Strider guys were shipping a bunch of folders before Christmas (which was what I really wanted), and that they would be available. I then emailed Vinnie and asked him if he was getting any folders in; and that I decided that I was going to wait for a folder because I couldnt afford to spend 300+ dollars twice. Vinnie later replied to me that he was not getting any folders in, so I cancelled the transaction. The knife was not shipped to me, and I had not sent him any money.
This is a complete list of every email I sent to Vinnie, I dont have a record of the emails he replied to me because AOL refreshed them with more recent e-mails:
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(Begin Email)
Date: 11/25/2001 4:28:41 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
Thanks alot Vinnie, I really appreciate you sending me this email. I was actually starting to feel kind of bad about strider knives in general. I have posted several posts over the past few months, and sometimes no one has even answered. I have yet to buy a Strider knife (exception buck strider folder) and was planning on doing so up until no one answered me, I think I'm deffinately interested in the WB. It's alot of money though, I will let you know by the end of the week? I just have to wait until some money clears my account and then calculate if I can afford it. Thanks so much,
Chris
Date: 11/25/2001 4:40:51 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
Im interested in either the WB or BT, can you tell me the differences between them? I don't know much about strider knives. is one tip stronger then the other? is there different intended tasks for each one?
Subj: Re: WB
Date: 11/25/2001 7:04:07 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
hey vinnie, ill take the WB, but can you honor the day after thanksgiving sale to the 2day after thanksgiving sale please? I'm 20 and poor. ?????!!!
Subj: Re: WB
Date: 11/25/2001 7:15:19 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
Deal, and I will take the BT sir.
I will send the $325 out next week.
where shoudl i send the money order to?
Subj: Re: WB
Date: 11/25/2001 7:19:27 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
Oh ****, no way I figured they had a bunch of guys helping them. Well, aren't I a prick then for being demanding. I'm in the Marine Corps. DEP, I leave for MCRD Feb 19th, this is my Christmas present to myself. I got guaranteed combat support, hopefully Assualt Amphibious. Hopefully they will let me carry my BT.
Subj: Re: WB
Date: 11/26/2001 9:00:10 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
Im going to mail your money order for the BT for 325 now.
Subj: Re: WB
Date: 11/26/2001 11:21:06 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
scratch that, check has not cleared, it will be friday. grr.
Subj: Re: WB
Date: 11/27/2001 10:04:11 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
Hey Vinnie,
I just realized that Mick and Duane are shipping quite a few folders before christmas, are you going to be getting any of them in stock? I think I'm going to hold off on the BT, I'm much more interested in the Folders. Do you have any ideas if you will get any in?
(End Email)
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Four days later I had the chance to visit Triple Aught Design in Oakland, who did have a folder, and I purchased one and then posted so on the Strider forums. (I ended up getting a Strider-Buck folder) After I posted, Vinnie posted some really juvenile, offensive stuff about me. I do quite a bit of trading on Bladeforums, and Im sure Ive screwed up a few times, but I think I have a pretty good record here as far as I know. After we exchanged posts on Bladeforums,
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=179622
Vinnie sends me this email:
Chris,
Let me tell you something you little funcking punk. I will conduct business any way I want to. You tell someone something than go back on it makes you a punk. I don't give a **** if you don't appreciate it. Nor do I give a **** that you don't like me threatning you. I've been a Marine for 12 years and I don't have to take any crap from some little kid who can't make his mind up. Keep this attitude with you when you go to boot camp. See how far it gets you there. As far as you going to Recon you can forget about it. Because you are such a ****ing little punk who has does nothing in his life yet you don't understand how samll the community is and how influencenal people can be. The fact that you didn't buy the knife from me was no big deal I could give a ****. It was the fact that you said you were and didn't. I have all of the old e-mails if you would like to read them. I told you to send me your address so I could package your knife. You sent me your address. So I packaged a labeled the knife. Your a little kid who is soon in for an eye opener.
As I said in the beginning, I know nothing about Vinnie, nor do I really care, but I dont appreciate the way that he treated me. I respect that he is a Marine and does not sell knives for a living; but the word below his name on Bladeforums.com says Dealer. I think he needs to really take a reality check. He is selling knives to customers. Have you ever been treated this way by a vendor? What do you think you would do if you were? Im sure at the least you would never do business their again. People cancel orders in business transactions; people even return items sometimes. The fact that Vinnie got so bent out of shape and had to call me a F*cking punk high school kid because he packaged a knife and then had to un-package a knife because I changed my mind 48 hours later really makes me wonder what his problem is.
In the end, I m aware that my opinion does not add up to a hill of bean here, and Im not going to waste anymore of everyones time talking about this, I think Mr. Paluccis lack of integrity and immaturity speak enough about him.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=179622
This whole thing started about a week ago when I ordered a Strider Model BT from Vinnie on the 25th of Feb. The next day through browsing the forums I realized that the Strider guys were shipping a bunch of folders before Christmas (which was what I really wanted), and that they would be available. I then emailed Vinnie and asked him if he was getting any folders in; and that I decided that I was going to wait for a folder because I couldnt afford to spend 300+ dollars twice. Vinnie later replied to me that he was not getting any folders in, so I cancelled the transaction. The knife was not shipped to me, and I had not sent him any money.
This is a complete list of every email I sent to Vinnie, I dont have a record of the emails he replied to me because AOL refreshed them with more recent e-mails:
********************************************************************
(Begin Email)
Date: 11/25/2001 4:28:41 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
Thanks alot Vinnie, I really appreciate you sending me this email. I was actually starting to feel kind of bad about strider knives in general. I have posted several posts over the past few months, and sometimes no one has even answered. I have yet to buy a Strider knife (exception buck strider folder) and was planning on doing so up until no one answered me, I think I'm deffinately interested in the WB. It's alot of money though, I will let you know by the end of the week? I just have to wait until some money clears my account and then calculate if I can afford it. Thanks so much,
Chris
Date: 11/25/2001 4:40:51 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
Im interested in either the WB or BT, can you tell me the differences between them? I don't know much about strider knives. is one tip stronger then the other? is there different intended tasks for each one?
Subj: Re: WB
Date: 11/25/2001 7:04:07 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
hey vinnie, ill take the WB, but can you honor the day after thanksgiving sale to the 2day after thanksgiving sale please? I'm 20 and poor. ?????!!!
Subj: Re: WB
Date: 11/25/2001 7:15:19 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
Deal, and I will take the BT sir.
I will send the $325 out next week.
where shoudl i send the money order to?
Subj: Re: WB
Date: 11/25/2001 7:19:27 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
Oh ****, no way I figured they had a bunch of guys helping them. Well, aren't I a prick then for being demanding. I'm in the Marine Corps. DEP, I leave for MCRD Feb 19th, this is my Christmas present to myself. I got guaranteed combat support, hopefully Assualt Amphibious. Hopefully they will let me carry my BT.
Subj: Re: WB
Date: 11/26/2001 9:00:10 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
Im going to mail your money order for the BT for 325 now.
Subj: Re: WB
Date: 11/26/2001 11:21:06 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
scratch that, check has not cleared, it will be friday. grr.
Subj: Re: WB
Date: 11/27/2001 10:04:11 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Seitokuken
To: striderknives@att.net
Hey Vinnie,
I just realized that Mick and Duane are shipping quite a few folders before christmas, are you going to be getting any of them in stock? I think I'm going to hold off on the BT, I'm much more interested in the Folders. Do you have any ideas if you will get any in?
(End Email)
*******************************************************************
Four days later I had the chance to visit Triple Aught Design in Oakland, who did have a folder, and I purchased one and then posted so on the Strider forums. (I ended up getting a Strider-Buck folder) After I posted, Vinnie posted some really juvenile, offensive stuff about me. I do quite a bit of trading on Bladeforums, and Im sure Ive screwed up a few times, but I think I have a pretty good record here as far as I know. After we exchanged posts on Bladeforums,
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=179622
Vinnie sends me this email:
Chris,
Let me tell you something you little funcking punk. I will conduct business any way I want to. You tell someone something than go back on it makes you a punk. I don't give a **** if you don't appreciate it. Nor do I give a **** that you don't like me threatning you. I've been a Marine for 12 years and I don't have to take any crap from some little kid who can't make his mind up. Keep this attitude with you when you go to boot camp. See how far it gets you there. As far as you going to Recon you can forget about it. Because you are such a ****ing little punk who has does nothing in his life yet you don't understand how samll the community is and how influencenal people can be. The fact that you didn't buy the knife from me was no big deal I could give a ****. It was the fact that you said you were and didn't. I have all of the old e-mails if you would like to read them. I told you to send me your address so I could package your knife. You sent me your address. So I packaged a labeled the knife. Your a little kid who is soon in for an eye opener.
As I said in the beginning, I know nothing about Vinnie, nor do I really care, but I dont appreciate the way that he treated me. I respect that he is a Marine and does not sell knives for a living; but the word below his name on Bladeforums.com says Dealer. I think he needs to really take a reality check. He is selling knives to customers. Have you ever been treated this way by a vendor? What do you think you would do if you were? Im sure at the least you would never do business their again. People cancel orders in business transactions; people even return items sometimes. The fact that Vinnie got so bent out of shape and had to call me a F*cking punk high school kid because he packaged a knife and then had to un-package a knife because I changed my mind 48 hours later really makes me wonder what his problem is.
In the end, I m aware that my opinion does not add up to a hill of bean here, and Im not going to waste anymore of everyones time talking about this, I think Mr. Paluccis lack of integrity and immaturity speak enough about him.