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Is Ganzo Firebird F753M1 any good, please share your opinon if you have one !!

Discussion in 'Knife Reviews & Testing' started by 9cr14mov, Mar 26, 2017.

  1. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    Counterfeit promoters gonna promote counterfeits.
     
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  2. AtechReviews

    AtechReviews

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    Jul 3, 2017
    Haters gonna Hate
     
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  3. EduardoA

    EduardoA

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    Nov 17, 2016
    What is more fake: Spyder... buying a Tenacious from China for 5 dollars and selling in America for 30 dollars or Kersh... buying a Cryo from China for 5 dollars and selling in America for 30 dollars?
    By the way, "axis-lock" is a clone of one of the oldest devices invented by men to block movement and lock doors: a slot in one part and a bar on the other, which blocks relative movement. Later, other men installed a spring, other installed a button to pull, and so life goes on...
     
  4. Mo2

    Mo2 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 8, 2016
    tbo that is annoying... but they do have good warranty whereas the others often dont, and the ones that will help you out still take months for shipping, if they made enough (im sure ganzo will sell you knives all day and night tho, they literally cost $5). These companies who charge more also have to pay their makers since they are not STEALING DESIGNS or design elements, thats the reason why people buy them, the style, of which are not rip offs of someone elses designs. i wont buy those $30 crap knives either. low quality knives are not worth it for the bad quality and super low materials your getting, but i dunno why, but folks dont get that. if you save up a tad you can get a decent knife for a low price with decent quality and materials. instead they back this company and tirelessly shill for them.
     
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  5. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    More excuses to legitimize counterfeiting.
     
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  6. sam eib

    sam eib

    36
    Apr 16, 2017
    Use your 753 and you be the judge.
     
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  7. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    Nope. Most people here don't buy knock offs from crap companies. We don't need to eat dog poop to know it tastes bad.
     
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  8. emjay4248

    emjay4248 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Oct 8, 2016
    Go to any of the big knife dealers and put in the parameters. Price, blade length I wouldn't put in specific companies also go to YouTube and look for vids that say "best edc knives for under $20.00 and you will find reviews on a ton of inexpensive knifes. You'll be amazed.
     
  9. emjay4248

    emjay4248 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Oct 8, 2016
    Ganzo's are a shot in the dark. Some are good and some are crap It's kind of like playing craps, sometimes you win and sometimes you loose. I don't suggest getting one . The guys in this thread are correct it doesn't pay and it is supporting thieves. There are many companies to choose from, Kershaw, Boker plus and Boker Magnum. Go to YouTube you will find a plethora of reviews on knives under $20.00 . you can also buy used on those other sites just make sure to look at their feedback. If the have any negatives see what they were for. You will have no trouble finding knives you just have to do a little legwork.
     
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  10. AtechReviews

    AtechReviews

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    Jul 3, 2017
    Which Ganzo models did you own to say that they were crap?

    OK, let's see.
    I want a truly ambidextrous knife, has smooth action for both opening and closing but not assisted, G10/CF scales, skeletonized liners and a decent steel (at least 440C/AUS8/8Cr13MoV) - under $15.
    What can you offer me to choose instead of my Ganzo?
     
  11. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    Nothing legitimate. You'll get a good steal though....
     
  12. Hackenslash

    Hackenslash Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    You are absolutely correct. I’ve handled a lot of Ganzos and the quality is highly variable. Sorry, this may run long but it’s time to share some real-world experience with these knives.

    I’ve handled two different G704s (a rip-off of the Benchmade Snody 14705). One was actually fairly well done but the other had poorly fitting scales and liners, a very uneven blade grind and an Axis lock that stuck badly.

    A G710 (a rip-off of the Benchmade 950 Rift) that I actually had a chance to use had poorly milled G10 scales, to the point of being sharp to the hand. The blade was so soft it couldn’t possibly have been 440C. It dulled so thoroughly after cutting rope and cardboard, I could never get an edge back onto it with my Sharpmaker. It would have needed a full re-profile. The blade even developed a bit of a recurve! I was able to tune out most of the blade play after hard use by tightening the pivot, but then the deployment was nil. Another G710 that I know of (but never used first-hand) has seemed to perform as expected for 440C.

    The Ganzo G711 that I played with (a copy of the Benchmade 746 Mini Onslaught) seemed impressive at first blush, although I never had opportunity to really use it. It had probably the best manifestation of an Axis lock copy of any other Ganzo. It did have a slight bend or warp in the blade. For some reason it couldn't get centered without scraping on the liners. If you could live with poor centering, the action was smooth.

    I was actually fairly impressed with a G712 that I handled (a scaled down rip-off of the Benchmade 860 Bedlam). The fit and finish was fairly well done and the blade was sharp and well ground for a $25 knife…until the Omega spring broke after less than 100 Axis flips. I’ve never had a spring break on a Benchmade, although I’m sure it can happen. I wonder if Ganzo sends out replacements from China?…

    I kind of liked the Ganzo F714 which to my knowledge might be an original design? Who knows with these guys. After getting it wet, it developed rust spots on the blade and liners far more quickly than I’d have suspected for 440C but I keep expectations low for a cheap knife. I still have that knife somewhere…

    I played with a G719 which is their first take on an auto knife and it committed the unpardonable sin…inconsistent deployment. Sometimes it snapped out sharply and locked securely, sometimes it bounced off and failed to lock. I think it’s a similar problem as people have had with the Launch series; it depends on how hold the knife when you release the button. You want nothing to do with an auto that doesn’t lock up EVERY time. It was a borrowed knife but I disassembled and destroyed it and bought a Boker Kalashnikov to replace it.

    The worst Axis lock I’ve ever experienced was on a Ganzo G720 (a rip-off of the LionsSteel SR series). Gritty, sticking and almost impossible to pull. Yuck.

    If you don’t care about theft, there is a chance you can get a good knife from these guys. I freely admit it. But there is also a good chance you’ll get a knife with an “issue”. I can’t really speak about their more recent releases because I don’t even want to handle or test a clone knife anymore. Maybe their quality/consistency has improved on their more recent clones of the Griptillian, 940 Osborne and PM2. Maybe not.

    Bear in mind that most of those crowing about “Ganzo quality” have ZERO experience with well-made knives. Their only point of reference is a similar priced gas station knife. Low expectations combined with limited scope of experience can yield some highly wonky opinions.

    At the end of the day there are far too many choices of great knives from companies that engineer, develop, and test their own knives. There are options from companies who actually offer a usable network of service and support. There are options from companies who support knife designers and the knife community. For a discerning, principled knife buyer there’s never any need to turn to Ganzo and their ilk. The good crowd here at BF can help suggest a lot of valid options.
     
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  13. Mo2

    Mo2 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 8, 2016
     
  14. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    This sums the issue up very well and explains why the vast majority of us here have such a problem with counterfeits, copies, and clones.
     
  15. AtechReviews

    AtechReviews

    83
    Jul 3, 2017
    OK, now I understand why you think Ganzo makes bad quality knives.
    Up to the G739 model, their quality was inconsistent and you could say the things you said about their knives.
    After that model (including), they have really upped their quality and probably QC and the latest models have been exceptional.
    Like I previously said - I liked the F753M1 the most from the G-Lock variants, and the F758AL from the auto ones (one of the best budget autos on the market IMO).

    My genuine Benchmade Griptilian 553:
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    Got it partly because I liked Ganzo knives so much and because I wanted to compare them.
     
  16. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    "G-lock":rolleyes::poop:
     
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  17. Mo2

    Mo2 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 8, 2016
    ive got one legitimate knife! i must be right all the time now.
     
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  18. AtechReviews

    AtechReviews

    83
    Jul 3, 2017
    I've noticed by now that you aren't the sharpest pencil in the drawer, so look what statement I replied to by saying that.
    BTW - most of my collection consists of knives that have original design.
     
  19. Mo2

    Mo2 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 8, 2016
    so im not a sharp pencil now because i made that remark? hmm
     
  20. emjay4248

    emjay4248 Gold Member Gold Member

    113
    Oct 8, 2016
    Ganzo 7391cf and F7582al they both had play and the action was pretty crappy. I just went to Bladehq's website and chose "under $100 and then I used the sort button and chose "lowest price" There is a ton of knives under $20.00 also look at the on sale and Closeouts. I just used Bladehq as an example. Look at some of the other companies too. Kershaw, CRKT, Boker Magnum series and a few in the Plus series, Schrade.
    These are just a few of the company's that are available. You can also co to the site that has the auctions and Buy it know and you will find many good knives. Once you pick a few knives that you like go to youtube and check on the knives Also there are a few reviews on good knives. I think one of the guys is Budget bugout. Good luck and have fun doing it.
     

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