10/22 for SHTF: follow up thread

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In the latest SHTF rifle thread a ways below, several folks discuss the merits of .22 lr and the Ruger 10/22 specifically.

I am curious; how would you modify or equip your 10/22 for SHTF duty? I am thinking about getting the Butler Creek folding stock for mine, and maybe peep sites, along with a few more mags.

Oh - and this is not a "don't pick a .22" thread; that's what the other one is for.;)
 
This is not mine, but it is the inspiration for where I am taking one of my three 10/22 rifles. The build is on hold due to economic uncertainty and I'd probably use a lower power scope and somehow retain some BUIS capability.

Some people tart 10/22 rifles into faux assault rifles, but I prefer to make them look more potent than they are in the barrel diameter and still use the flush fit rotary mags. I can always break out the dead give away high cap mags if/when necessary as they hang so low below the stock, are generally speaking, not as reliable, as well as tremendously funny looking.

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I've posted mine a few times before, but...

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Ruger 10/22 with Simmons 22mag scope, butler creek folding stock, SWR Warlock suppressor, Volquartsen hammer and sear, braided paracord sling, and a bolt locking device from a member over at silencertalk.com.


Absolute reliability, packs down reasonably small, minute of squirrel accurate, and spooky quiet if you need it.
 
Is it Ok to say I think that a .22lr is an excellent SHTF ?

My main veiw ofn the mods would be to accurise it. My understanding is that off the shelf the accuracy is variable and a few small mods on the trigger and a new barrel can help tremendously. if you are hoping to use it for fodo gathering whe it i s scarce the opportujity cost of missing a shot could be high

If you are not already aware try rimfirecentral.com for more information on 10/22s and mods than you can ever use. Post your question there and see what you get - some very knowledgable people

That and a robust scope, and finding what ammunition it liked, and a bipod. I love bipods
 
If I were going to set up a 10/22, or any .22, for emergency use I'd do the following:

First (and most important in my book) find out what ammo it likes and practice with it. A "click" when you're expecting a "bang" sucks. Semi-auto's can be picky. I have 3 and they have all let me know what they don't like to eat.

Second, practice some more.

Last, learn how to tear it down, clean it and get it back in order with the least amount of work and the least amount of tools. Field stripping if you will.

There really is no need to throw parts at a .22 rifle if it hits Minute of Squirrel with open sights. The only reason I'd upgrade one is to make it fit me better if the stock was too long or short.

Chris
 
spare magazines (not really an add on) and maybe a slightly longer stock will do you just fine. the hogue overmold stock will lighten it up quite a bit too which i like. id like to get a cheapish red dot for mine just for fun and easy sight pick up especially at night.
 
Fast aquisition scope, a slightly magnified scope with illuminated dot or crosshair..

Ammo.

Sling.

Comfortable, lightweight stock in your prefered length. (lots of good aftermarket ones Avail.

Eagle buttstock pouch to carry spare ammo etc...

Thats it. Maybe some aftermarket sights.

Id also get some spare internal parts. Hammer, buffer, etc...
 
I've been meaning to mod my 10/22 a bit, haven't gotten around to it. Hoping all you can give me some ideas.
 
Mine's a plain-jane, out-of-the-box 10/22 Compact. Short, light, comes with firesights, all it needs is a sling and a few extra mags.
 
here are my 2 all set up right here. they are awesome. the black one which is heavier is set up more for target shooting but still comes in light enough to be carried squirrel hunting. its got a 18 inch shilen match bull barrel, volts trigger grp, bell and carlson fully adjustable stock and a couple other things. its got the new super sniper scope on it , mil/mil with mildot reticle and its first focal plane. awesome set up and it will stack rounds on top of each other all the way out to 200 yards, its stupid accurate

the next is a tactical solutions 16 inch barrel threaded for a can, hogue stock and its the nodak spud receiver. i did some mods to make it super quiet and with a can on it its quieter than a whipper snapper lol. it comes in with the red dot on it about 3 lbs. i have never felt a gun so light fully loaded. it is my go to squirrel gun. you can hump it all day and not even know it.

10-22's are great guns for gathering game, self defense if need be, and just plain old good fun. and its still one of few rounds you can afford to shoot lol



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Of the one's I own, I'd use this one as it's set up to be reliable and accurate with CCI stingers (the 22 ammo I'd use in a SHTF scenerio.)


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I totally agree with those pictures shown! Really nice those 10/22s that are clean and no B.S stocks scopes. I love a stock 10/22 with a bull barrel! Actually i hate those ugly looking fixed up 10/22s, with so many add- ons. I mean when you have such a strong scope your f'n .22 won't even reach it, ha execuse my rant. K.I.S.S!

With the bull barrels, does it significantly have a difference in muzzle flash? I have a 22/45 pistol with bull barrel and it stays on target!
 
Original. Open sights. Buy a bunch of ammo.
Forget the Ninja nonsense.
I won many a small bore silhouette match with out of the box "junk"
 
I agree With J Williams on this. Low power scope, for some increased accuracy without slowing target aquisition, comfortable aftermarket stock, ammo. mabey some puches and a sling with puches to carry ammo, and other items

I noticed that some of the guns, posted here only have optical sites, I would need to have iron sites as a back up.
 
You can use a stock 10/22 with extra mags and be set or you can deck it out with everything you think would be useful! :)

I have 10/22's in various configurations from factory carbine to the two below! :)

My 10/22 with Burris 4x Compact scope, Butler Creek sidefolder, extended mag release.

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Stock folded.

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This is my son's 10/22! He's 10y.o. so the adjustable Tapco Fusion T-6 stock is KING right now! It has a Bushnell 4x scope, extended mag. release, flash hider, ATG vertical foregrip (this is handy!!) And the extended mag is a Butler Creek Steel Lips 25rder.

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I am curious; how would you modify or equip your 10/22 for SHTF duty?
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1. 16" barrel - .22lr doesn't gain any steam after this length due to the tiny amount of powder, and longer barrels can actually slow bullets down. The barrel diameter doesn't matter, it's the chamber cut and crown that count for accuracy. You can have a stock barrel rechambered and recrowned and it will shoot as well as the expensive aftermarket choices. If you want aftermarket, Green mountain sells heavy, fluted 16" barrels for less than $100.

2. A lightweight, but rigid stock. There are tons of choices, but most options for the 10/22 are pretty cheap. The Hogue overmould is one, it is just too floppy, and that stupid sticky rubber coating is like glue to dirt and other crud that I don't want stuck to a weapon. The most inexpensive stock I'd go with is a Fajen, they're made from harder polymer and cost something like $60. The "folders" aren't even an option for something that will be relied on, they just don't allow a decent cheak weld to place shots properly.

3. A quality scope with sturdy rings. Many of the scope bases for the 10/22 only allow use of 2 out of the 4 mounting holes. I would find a 1 piece base that has 4 screw holes and use quality rings (cost more than $10 and not sold at Walmart). I would also spend at least $100 on a scope, but shop for something paralex adjusted for rimfire ranges. Weaver and Leopold both make decently priced "rimfire" scopes that are great quality.

4. Trigger work - the stock trigger is just too rough for any real accuracy, and pushing a rimfire to its limits requires exact shot placement. There are numerous action kits, but some of them require minor gunsmithing to install.
 
RatDrall is right on

1. good aftermarket trigger like Volquartsen has most of the work done for a one off build (I built a fixture, but did several trigger jobs for our Chevy Truck Sportsman's Team Challenge team)

2. you can have a stock barrel set back and rechambered or opt for a .930" barrel.

3. if you choose the larger barrel, mount the scope to the barrel not receiver ... first year at the STC all three guns with Leupold receiver mounts loosened...added cantilevered mounts (Weigand) for year two

4. .22s are notorious for groups changing by pressure points on barrel...I found for consistent accuracy it was necessary to double lug (mounting lug) and glass bed the barrel and not the receiver... if you have the carbine barrel band, try groups without it

\\the following are overkill//

5. my rifle liked to throw a single flyer... found it was due to the firing pin having too much vertical movement...reduced the headspace (not necessary unless you want a one hole rifle)

6. added a barrel tuner of 1 1/4 bar round stock aluminum, bored thru and added a slot and pinch cap screw...shoot a group, and by adjusting the location of the tuner cause the barrel harmonic to open or close the group depending on the brand of ammo you select (my M41 liked Win SuperX)

after 3 years and a steep learning curve, it will shoot 15/16" groups at 100y with a 6-24 x 44 Tasco with 1/8min dot with high velocity SuperX
 
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