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4.7 3V used for the first time: significant edge damage

Discussion in 'Survive! Knives' started by Macchina, Nov 5, 2017.

  1. chiral.grolim

    chiral.grolim Universal Kydex Sheath Extension Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 2, 2008
    great pics :thumbsup::thumbsup:

    And really looking forward to he outcome too.

    @Kyle363 DANG!!! That sucks, man... Have you sharpened it back since? I guess you could scallop the ENTIRE edge and make it a serrated blade :p
     
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  2. Kyle363

    Kyle363 Gold Member Gold Member

    144
    Dec 11, 2016
    Hahahaha I sent it back to LT since I didn't want to grind that much 3V. They fixed it and sent it back in under a week.
     
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  3. scout1sg

    scout1sg

    925
    Nov 9, 2009
    The same thought came to mind when I seen the pic, he has the beginnings of a serrated edge.
     
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  4. Hale Storm

    Hale Storm Kydex Whisperer Gold Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    I skinned out two bucks last weekend with a Lionsteel M4 in M390. There was no noticeable difference in edge retention from one deer to the other one, and the knife is still ready to go, although I may hit the strop a lick or two. One of the guys that was there and is uneducated about premium steels made several comments about the sharpness and how it stayed sharp.
    I've been looking for a GSO 4.1 in 3V so I can have that Grail of edge holding ability on a hunting knife. Interested to see how this shakes out.
     
  5. rc51kid

    rc51kid

    76
    Dec 7, 2009
    You ask if anyone else has had damage like this. Yes I have. I had a 4.7 Cru Forge. I carved a Thanksgiving turkey with it just for fun, yes I did tear into and butcher a few leg joints with it. but what the hell it was a cooked turkey. I had multiple small chips in the blade. I contacted Survive. They but a fresh new edge on it no questions. Then they checked the heat treat and said it was good.

    Who knows why. Needless to say I was disappointed. There service was great but why did this happen in the first place? especially if the HT was good. I don't know. But I still own other Survive knives. I am still considering a monster like the GSO8 or GSO10. I still love the shape and design. So I am note hating on them but also trying to not be being blindly following the group declaring that they are incapable of a flaw.
     
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  6. Oyster

    Oyster Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 2, 2011
    Any news on this?
     
  7. OBX351

    OBX351 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 29, 2014
    A little late to the thread and I can understand why you're frustrated. But I have been hard using GSOs for over 4 years in 3v, 20cv and CFV. I've also had rolling and some chipping like the knife in the starting post, it happens to all of my knives not just GSOs. I either send them back to S!K and they are returned good as new or I just reprofile them with my work sharp field or guided sharpeners and strop to finish. I can't quite get them as sharp as Guy does but they can shave.

    Anyway, it sounds like Guy and Ellie are going to take care of it. Please let us know how it works out.

    PS - Nice Deer and beautiful leaver action rifle!! That's a great picture!
     
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2017
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  8. Macchina

    Macchina Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2006
    I contacted Survive! a couple days ago and they got right back to me with a report that the knife was having a new edge edge put on it that day and being tested. We'll see how it turns out...
     
  9. Oyster

    Oyster Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 2, 2011
    Thanks, and let us know!
     
  10. LongBomber

    LongBomber

    10
    Mar 2, 2010
    I wouldn't have expected that kind of edge damage from doing up a deer. Maybe if you battoned the pelvis. I have seen a couple guys roll the edge or dent the blade badly doing that. But I would think 3v would stand up to that too.

    Have you ever tried doing the gutless method of processing a deer? I started doing it a couple years ago, pretty easy to do and you still pick up all the meat except the heart/liver.
     
  11. Macchina

    Macchina Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2006
    The deer was shot on an island hunt we do every other year. The deer was an hour drag out of a swamp to the nearest footpath, then a 2 mile haul back to camp. We camp 6 miles from the dock and have to carry our deer out with a weeks worth of winter camping gear... Halfway back we're tempted to remove the deer's eyeballs to shed weight, let alone all the guts ;)
     
  12. dogboye

    dogboye Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Just to add another perspective: What you did with your deer (blade-wise) sounds the same as what I've done with deer with everything from 1095 to O1, S30V, VG10, and N690Co. I've never had edge damage, including cutting up through the ribs to get to and sever the windpipe and esophagus. Most of them would still cut paper cleanly after the gutting and skinning. Some would still scrape hair off my arm.
     
  13. Sulaco

    Sulaco Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Ditto
     
  14. Macchina

    Macchina Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2006
    I received word from Guy yesterday: My knife checked out through all of the testing he put it though very well. The knife was unfortunately Rc tested along the blade so Guy offered me a new knife from an up-coming GSO offering.

    I have to say, I have been EXTREMELY impressed with Guy's handling of this situation. He has not let me down and gone way above and beyond what any other knife company has to make this right. I am without a doubt a fan of S!K.
     
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  15. Oyster

    Oyster Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 2, 2011
    Am I understanding this correctly, the knife performed flawlessly throughout all the tests and the damage you experienced is limited to the very edge and was resolved by a few sharpenings until the “good” steel was exposed?
     
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  16. Fancier

    Fancier

    Jul 1, 2012
    That is one of the advantages of the "fat spine saber grind" because you have plenty of places to do hardness testing if you get one back from a customer.
    If it was my knife I'd want it back regardless of the series of little pits from the hardness testing unless Guy had a replacement in stock, because I do love that 4.7 handle.
    He may have taken the opportunity to beat the heck out of the thing as well and that would make it hard to restore to original condition. :D
    I hope your replacement knife meets your needs and arrives in a timely fashion.
     
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  17. BBuser

    BBuser

    215
    Sep 4, 2016
    If Guy going to send you something new, great. There's no reason not to get back the damaged one. I know I'd want to see it.
     
  18. CataD

    CataD Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    So, whenever you guys exchange something damaged/not functional, like a TV, phone, flashlight, whatever... you ask to keep the damaged item? Wow!

    Also, I've never heard of a knife maker that would repair your damaged knife and send you a new one, as well. Even Busse, who has the best warranty in the business, will repair OR replace your blade, not both.

    OP, I'm glad they're taking care of you!!
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2017
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  19. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    This was a practice which used to be common among the auto mechanics (insert motorcycles, bicycles, chariots, whatevs!) who wanted to convey honesty unless there was going to be a core deposit charge with the new part which the repair shop had to order. I have not heard of this sort of thing in the field of consumer goods or tools!
     
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  20. CataD

    CataD Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    I see what you're saying, Casino, and agree; I know very well of that practice. My reply was to the member above who stated 'there's no reason not to get back the damaged one', which is completely false. There are plenty of reasons, I can think of several: to keep the knife for further testing, not letting a warranty-returned knife back into the wild, knife suffered more than cosmetic blemishes (like F2, UB) during hard warranty testing, etc..

    Besides, the OP did not even claim he wanted the knife back and he seems happy with the outcome of the warranty claim.

    There are several things you can critique S!K for, Warranty claims is not one of them. Suggesting otherwise is trolling IMHO.

    C.
     

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