8Cr13MoV vs 4116?

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How do you like these two steels and also that 4034 stainless? Which is hardest and best for edc? I see three Cold Steel models with each.
 
8Cr13MoV is essentially AUS 8, but with a bit more slop in the compositional tolerances.
If properly heat treated this steel provides an easily attainable very fine edge and holds it better than 420HC. For every day carry, it's fine. Also good for outdoors knives. Has good toughness.

4116 is essentially 420HC. See paragraph above.
 
I prefer 8cr13mov over 4116. holds edge longer and just as easy to sharpen......

4034 seems like 420 type steel to me in use. it's real basic stainless okay but I prefer 8cr13mov to it also.....
 
I have 5 Spyderco Tenacious knives in 8Cr13MoV that I use for fairly ‘dirty’ chores at my remote property when I prefer not to use my other knives. While it doesn’t hold an edge for a long time, it holds up to pretty harsh use and sharpens very easily and quickly to hair popping edge.
 
beeinak said:
I have 5 Spyderco Tenacious knives in 8Cr13MoV that I use for fairly ‘dirty’ chores at my remote property when I prefer not to use my other knives. While it doesn’t hold an edge for a long time, it holds up to pretty harsh use and sharpens very easily and quickly to hair popping edge.
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My tenacious would dull cutting paper. Might have been the factory geometry to blame.
 
SwissHeritageCo said:
My tenacious would dull cutting paper. Might have been the factory geometry to blame.
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I have used mine for typical chores at the cabin such as cutting roots, small branches, paracord, zip-ties, trimmer line, old tarps, trimming wood when building things, breaking down cardboard, digging up small areas, prying up staples, scraping gunk/mud off of saws and lawn equipment, etc.

Mine certainly dull faster than my favorite folders in VG10 and S30, but I have never been disappointed with their performance because they are so easy to touch up (and the price). I freehand sharpen mine so I don’t even know what angle.
 
beeinak said:
I have used mine for typical chores at the cabin such as cutting roots, small branches, paracord, zip-ties, trimmer line, old tarps, trimming wood when building things, breaking down cardboard, digging up small areas, prying up staples, scraping gunk/mud off of saws and lawn equipment, etc.

Mine certainly dull faster than my favorite folders in VG10 and S30, but I have never been disappointed with their performance because they are so easy to touch up (and the price). I freehand sharpen mine so I don’t even know what angle.
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I judged mine harshly and it put me off the steel completely. D2 was a revelation in comparison but I used the crock sticks to keep my tenacious sharp when I should have reprofiled it the day I got it so I feel I might be giving it a bad rap when in reality it's probably perfectly serviceable.
 
8cr13mov is a great steel that can handle pretty much anything you would need a knife for on a day to day basis. It may lose its edge faster than higher end blade steels, but it also sharpens up much easier and knives in this steel are usually a fraction of the cost.
 
If you are looking at Cold Steel and there is an option you like in AUS-10 then I cannot encourage you enough to pay the little bit extra. If I could find a better pocket clip I would carry my Mini Recon far more but still in the bit I've carried it that's been a better steel than the 4116 in the Verdict I hardly used. That one started sharp and got dull pretty quick.
 
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