- Joined
- May 6, 2009
- Messages
- 2,914
Again, I'm grateful for all the info. shared. The last few posts have really clarified things for me. I'll be ordering a sheet of .040" AEB-L from Chuck tomorrow. Merry Christmas!
This is such a timely thread, as this was going to be my next project. I searched quite a bit but couldn't really get a good idea of the dimensions, thickness, bevel height, and so on as you mentioned, TK.
Providing those tracings is so incredibly helpful, and I'm sure watching this build progress will be as well.
For mine, I'll simply be using 15n20 from a band saw blade since I only work with carbon steels and it's the only steel I have that's wide enough. It's at about .0625" thickness I believe, but I'll probably end up hogging off some of its thickness prior to beveling. Since I'm still a novice with leather, I'm sure it'll work out fine for now 'til I develop any type of discernment in working with leather.
Thanks to TK, Paul, and Dave for already making this an excellent thread.
I'll definitely be following along!
~Paul
My YT Channel
Lsubslimed
This is such a timely thread, as this was going to be my next project. I searched quite a bit but couldn't really get a good idea of the dimensions, thickness, bevel height, and so on as you mentioned, TK.
Providing those tracings is so incredibly helpful, and I'm sure watching this build progress will be as well.
For mine, I'll simply be using 15n20 from a band saw blade since I only work with carbon steels and it's the only steel I have that's wide enough. It's at about .0625" thickness I believe, but I'll probably end up hogging off some of its thickness prior to beveling. Since I'm still a novice with leather, I'm sure it'll work out fine for now 'til I develop any type of discernment in working with leather.
Thanks to TK, Paul, and Dave for already making this an excellent thread.
I'll definitely be following along!
~Paul
My YT Channel
Lsubslimed
... (It's been a few years since my last upload)
Paul: I wouldn't fret too much on the use of 15n20 - it's a fine steel in it's own right. Blade geometry, heat treat, and finally type of steel (in order of importance) determine how a knife performs. I chose AEB-L simply because it's easily obtained in the .040" thickness, it's cheap, and I don't have to burn $9.00 ceramic belts up to thin out thicker stock.
For those going to use AEB-L I've gone to doing all my grinding post heat treat. I have done some out of thicker stock just grind more till you're at your target thickness. Running the bevel up higher does work but doesn't last, another reason I've gone to beveling the whole blade starting in front of the handle.
This one was ground out of .070 stock, sometimes hard to find the 0.40.
Its not that thick anymore. Back of the blade in front of the handle:
Behind the edge:
Handle material doesn't seem to matter much and I've made em with or without bolsters. Doesn't seem to make much diff. I leave the corners of the handle a little more square then most ya see out there. Helps me index and keeps the knife in place while using. I do use them for hours at a time sometimes, the squareishness doesn't seem to bother my hand.
Paul the tracing above labeled "Danny Marlin" was my first custom knife about 20+ years old, and it was my go to knife for most of that time. it's made of L6 from a recycled circle saw blade ( I don't think M4, AEB-L and some of the other super steels were around then) and it's just as sharp and works as well as when it was new. It is slightly thicker, but still within the .040/.046 range. it still qualifies as one of my favorites among the ten In have.
Paul
Paul: I wouldn't fret too much on the use of 15n20 - it's a fine steel in it's own right. Blade geometry, heat treat, and finally type of steel (in order of importance) determine how a knife performs. I chose AEB-L simply because it's easily obtained in the .040" thickness, it's cheap, and I don't have to burn $9.00 ceramic belts up to thin out thicker stock.
Thanks for the reassurance!
It wasn't so much the 15n20 that I was a bit worried about but more so the stock thickness I have it in, at least after hearing Paul's standard of .04/.046" in thickness. Since I have yet to use any type of round knife and don't know the difference between a good cutting and great cutting one, I'm hoping the .06" stock won't bug me too much.
I might try to hog off some of the thickness prior to beveling, but we'll see how confident I am in doing do once I get it going.
Thanks again for all the great advice!
~Paul
My YT Channel
Lsubslimed
... (It's been a few years since my last upload)
Yes sir! It was Ben's. Ya know Ben Franklin. He used it a lot in his work. He got it from Paul, not Paul Long the leathersmith, Paul Revere, the silversmith. Seriously, try finding someone that can read it! Paul Mason is gonna help me learn to make folders. He said I had to get some digital ones.... geez.
Less than 10 minutes to thin it down. Not a problem.
View attachment 819493 Warren, based on your photo it probably won't drag.....if it is truly .040 all the way to the heavy black line, and then taken to zero at the edge with about a 1/4" bevel to add the convex strength to the edge. From this point it's going to be heat treat and bevel geometry to prove whether it performs or not. Keep in mind, I'm not a knife maker, just a user so I may be way off, but I do know what has worked well for me.
The photo above is about the best I could get of the Knip Knife showing edge and bevel.
Paul