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a thread about folding knives

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by Lorien, Mar 11, 2019.

  1. fonedork

    fonedork Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 7, 2011
    I also dislike the pokey and cheap-ish feeling aspects of flared-up pocket clips, and I’ve had them pull out of my pocket too and will not use them. I think bent clips are fine though if the tip is bent back down flat at the end, so it’s not sticking out and poking stuff. Like the standard vanilla clips you get on Spydercos. I thought the Shiro clip was overly fancy and bulky.
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  2. Tricky Dickey

    Tricky Dickey Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 15, 2012
    Tip up carry...obviously
  3. Elgatodeacero

    Elgatodeacero Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 5, 2014
    i think a slick retractable pocket clip would be cool, maybe a refined version of the Lionsteel clip on their ROK model?

    i would prefer a framelock to a liner lock, but both can be very strong.
  4. ElCaptain

    ElCaptain Gold Member Gold Member

    May 1, 2011
    One day, while I was feeding limbs into a woodchipper, I looked down and saw my pocketknife riding away on the branch that was in the chipper. The flared tip got a branch under it and lifted it right out of my pocket!
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  5. fonedork

    fonedork Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 7, 2011
    Maybe a folder could be designed with a special guard or some design feature that makes it sit and stay upright in the back of your pocket, tip up, without a clip, and just stay there and not fall over
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  6. David45

    David45 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 27, 2017
    0AD82A40-DE9B-4712-943C-94BFE8208747.jpeg A locking frame lock seems like a great idea! Totally consistent with my perception of Carothers toughness ethic.
  7. betzner

    betzner CenCal Coast Platinum Member

    Jan 23, 2007
    Just wear tighter pants or exercise those gluts, lol.
  8. argyle1812

    argyle1812 Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 6, 2016
    Personally I would prefer a backlock or something similar to an axis lock. Frame locks are ok but I just cant learn to love them. No liner locks.
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  9. Agith

    Agith Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 29, 2010
    Given the nature of the knives you make, I would say that something comparable in locking capability to the Extrema rao II (as in utilizing a pin, this is also seen in the battle horse knives tree frog) would be interesting. Maybe having that pin able to be seated into the handle instead of just dangling from a lanyard. Doing something like this could make it easier for people who live in countries with lock laws (or you could still make the knife lock and have that pin be an added level of toughness/security).

    Blade wise, I tend to favor 3.5" blades. Clip points are really nifty and seldom seen on folders however a spear point is usually a safer bet in terms of what is popular. Blade ideally would be ground similarly to the EDC series of blades.
    And as for the handle, I would really love to see micarta scales/inlays on full liners.

    I think the combination of those would make it a very nice and unique knife relative to the market we see which is flooded with ti framelocks.

    That said, I am not really likely to end up a buyer anyway. Graduating college next month so I plan on being more broke than ever!
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  10. abbydaddy

    abbydaddy Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 14, 2014
    I was just thinking, it probably wouldn't appeal to Nathan, but it would be neat to see a CPK friction folder. I can well imagine a lovely bomb proof friction folder being a pleasant tool to use. It would have been nice to have a real solid one back when I was landscaping. Plus it would be good for people in places where locks are banned.
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  11. Ajack60

    Ajack60 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 21, 2013
    I’d like to see a drop point with a belly in the 3.6 to 4” range. Liner lock with nice grippy micarta covers or a frame lock with micarta inlays.
    Full flat grind in 3V since there’s not many folders offered in 3V. Double thumb studs that don’t protrude way out past the frame. Non flipping.
    A place to tie a FOB or lanyard on. Phosphor bronze washers, finger grooves and it can be taken apart, cleaned without having to worry about voiding a warranty or having to have a Manuel to get it together again. Good wear resistant hardware so you don’t have to worry about stripping something out. Pivot size isn’t an issue. Pocket clip should be flexible to accommodate thicker pockets and still be sturdy for dress style pockets.Lets face it, if I’m depending on a pocket clip to keep my knife secure then I need to rethink carrying a nice knife. An optional pocket sheath would be nice for those that like to carry in the pocket.
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  12. johnnytoxin


    May 24, 2010
    Lock: anything but a liner/frame lock. Too many of those already and they are antiquated IMO. We need something fresh and original. I would encourage CPK to design a new locking mechanism if at all possible.

    Blade: 3.25-3.5” D3V

    Handle: Micarta or g10, something grippy when wet.

    Pocket clip: deep enough carry that it doesn’t fall out, not so deep that it is difficult to get out of the pocket.
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  13. amflud

    amflud Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 10, 2009
    Yeah, if it has a liner lock or frame lock I won’t be getting one. I just don’t like them, and I also know I’m in the minority here so I won’t be holding my breath.

    I also don’t like thumb studs or thumb disks.

    These are the reasons I pretty much just carry a Spyderco.
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  14. The Shatz

    The Shatz Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 1, 2017
    Automatic otf shiv would be pretty cool
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  15. fonedork

    fonedork Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 7, 2011
    What about a fixed mini shiv with an otf dual action sheath?
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  16. mpjustin

    mpjustin Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 5, 2009
    This would be cool!
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  17. vkp78

    vkp78 Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    May 6, 2014
    Johnnytox speaks the truth!
    Any folder that CPK brings out in 3V, I am getting it. That's a done deal but to come out with a new locking mechanism? That would be fine, very very fine!
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  18. E40

    E40 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 13, 2012
    To me, these types of knives are utilitarian in nature. I have always preferred users over straight collectors, though I have some I have never used. Frame or liner lock is fine - if they are done correctly. 3 inch blade, 3.5 max if necessary for design or ergonomics. I am okay with a flipper, studs are good if the knife opens as expected. Never liked the Spyderco type hole for opening a knife. Scales should be functional including for cold and wet hands, but something to add a subtle look.
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  19. fonedork

    fonedork Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 7, 2011
    I’m sorry in advance for hating on this knife, but there’s a design flaw that kills it for me. The pocket clip is too pointy. It is also recessed into the handle and fully integrated into the knife design so removing it would hurt the aesthetics and leave a hole. It creates a hotspot and it pokes my finger when I flip it open, but my real complaint is that the tip of this clip pokes into the stitching of the T shirts I wear and pulls it, to where I had to cut the hem on two of my beloved shirts, a slow and cruel shirt death...UNFORGIVABLE!!

    The very pointy point where the clip contacts the knife also bothers me. Pointy everywhere. Why’s it have to be so pointy.

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  20. Lorien

    Lorien Moderator Moderator

    Dec 5, 2005
    I like the old school stamped clips more than most of the milled ones I see around these days
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