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Entrek makes a nice dagger. Heavy and built like a freaking tank!
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I love me some daggers!
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Bottom row from the left
2 reproduction Marine Raider Stilletos
4 WW2 Marine Raider Stilletos
ww2 3rd Pattern F/S
Hill Knives F/S
I forget the model name, Fox Knives Italy
BlackJack A/F
1998 Case V-42
Top 2 are 1918 Mk1 LF&C Trench knives
Left column
1969 Gerber Mk2
odd ball dagger of a Case blade and ontario handle.
Erickhorn FS200
Spartan Blades V14.
right side
HG Long 2nd Patern F/S
Brent Shandow 1st pattern F/S
Peter Bauchop Witch
Aerial Cutlery WW2 dagger
I think I got them all!
2 reproduction Marine Raider Stilletos
4 WW2 Marine Raider Stilletos
ww2 3rd Pattern F/S
Hill Knives F/S
I forget the model name, Fox Knives Italy
BlackJack A/F
1998 Case V-42
Top 2 are 1918 Mk1 LF&C Trench knives
Left column
1969 Gerber Mk2
odd ball dagger of a Case blade and ontario handle.
Erickhorn FS200
Spartan Blades V14.
right side
HG Long 2nd Patern F/S
Brent Shandow 1st pattern F/S
Peter Bauchop Witch
Aerial Cutlery WW2 dagger
I think I got them all!
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I carried a F&S dagger on my first tour in Vietnam. i was concerned the point was too weak so took about 1 1/2 inches off. Never really liked that form, especially the handle. I think the Cold Steel Tai Pan has a much better profile and handle. I was told that Custom Knife Maker Bill Bagwell, said in print that the Tai Pan was the best dagger design he had ever seen. John
The biggest advantage of full-length daggers is that they are the lightest possible blade design for a given size. I carried an SOG Desert Dagger on a shoulder harness for a while, and immediately noted a huge superiority in confort over a similar size single-edge knife carried in the same way all day, despite the wasted weight of the SOG dagger's heavy pommel...
Now some single-edge knives are pretty light, but length for length, and blade stock thickness for blade stock thickness, the dagger will always be much lighter, which makes them particularly suited to concealed carry over long periods. This lightness is in my view by a wide margin the most important advantage they have.
Knowing this implies that a good dagger design should never waste weight with anything more than a stick tang and, preferrably these days, a full plastic handle devoid of metal guard or pommel.
Another essential design feature is that the compromise in cutting performance should be minimized with deep hollow grinds. Some Cutlery Shoppe exclusive Gerber Mark IIs were ground thinner at the edge and managed to still be sharp with a flat grind: They still wasted weight with the full metal handle...
The best dagger design I have seen (discontinued, but the one I am aware of that most closely follows the above criterias) is the Al MAr Shadow IV, though it needs to be fairly heavily sharpened when new. It is incredibly light for its size, actually feeling like it is made of plastic. The sharpest factory dagger out of the box is probably the Cold Steel Tai Pan, but it wastes weight with metal fixtures in the handle. Worst feature of the Tai Pan is the bulky oval guard, but I am still interested enough to eventually get one. The blade design is on the heavy side, but close to ideal.
Worst problem of double edged daggers is that traditional non-kydex sheaths will dull one edge, or the other, when drawing... This is immediately noticeable, if you always pick the same side to rub, after barely fifty to a hundred draws. They are already marginal cutting knives as is, so they are really the one type of knife that cannot afford any dulling... My solution, since I don't like Kydex, is that they are never drawn...
Some will say "the edge is not the point of these things". Well you can never predict what will matter, and a dull knife is always dangerous junk to me.
Gaston
Now some single-edge knives are pretty light, but length for length, and blade stock thickness for blade stock thickness, the dagger will always be much lighter, which makes them particularly suited to concealed carry over long periods. This lightness is in my view by a wide margin the most important advantage they have.
Knowing this implies that a good dagger design should never waste weight with anything more than a stick tang and, preferrably these days, a full plastic handle devoid of metal guard or pommel.
Another essential design feature is that the compromise in cutting performance should be minimized with deep hollow grinds. Some Cutlery Shoppe exclusive Gerber Mark IIs were ground thinner at the edge and managed to still be sharp with a flat grind: They still wasted weight with the full metal handle...
The best dagger design I have seen (discontinued, but the one I am aware of that most closely follows the above criterias) is the Al MAr Shadow IV, though it needs to be fairly heavily sharpened when new. It is incredibly light for its size, actually feeling like it is made of plastic. The sharpest factory dagger out of the box is probably the Cold Steel Tai Pan, but it wastes weight with metal fixtures in the handle. Worst feature of the Tai Pan is the bulky oval guard, but I am still interested enough to eventually get one. The blade design is on the heavy side, but close to ideal.
Worst problem of double edged daggers is that traditional non-kydex sheaths will dull one edge, or the other, when drawing... This is immediately noticeable, if you always pick the same side to rub, after barely fifty to a hundred draws. They are already marginal cutting knives as is, so they are really the one type of knife that cannot afford any dulling... My solution, since I don't like Kydex, is that they are never drawn...
Some will say "the edge is not the point of these things". Well you can never predict what will matter, and a dull knife is always dangerous junk to me.
Gaston
+1 for the Entrek. I only hear good things about them yet it seems almost nobody has one.
Contributing with some nice models
This ome seems like its fine to carry around for utility.
Then we have the beautiful stabby Terzuola models
Also, the not so well known Fallkniven G1
The not so much talked about Peacekeeper II (which I'd classify as one of the top 5 daggers ever made, btw)
And last but not least this Randall model 2.
With utilitarian knives determining which is better is controversial yet still doable to a certain level, but with daggers I'm afraind you can only base your judgement in aesthetics and meat piercing.
Contributing with some nice models
This ome seems like its fine to carry around for utility.
Then we have the beautiful stabby Terzuola models
Also, the not so well known Fallkniven G1
The not so much talked about Peacekeeper II (which I'd classify as one of the top 5 daggers ever made, btw)
And last but not least this Randall model 2.
With utilitarian knives determining which is better is controversial yet still doable to a certain level, but with daggers I'm afraind you can only base your judgement in aesthetics and meat piercing.
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I have been wanting an Entrek, a Spartan Breed Fighter and a Roton Talon for a long time.
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That Randall is sweet!
SOG Daggert2 my 2nd favorite dagger.
This is my favorite
Browning Black Label Damascus boot knife
SOG Daggert2 my 2nd favorite dagger.
This is my favorite
Browning Black Label Damascus boot knife
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Hello,
I am in search for a new dagger and I hesitate between three different models:
_Spartan Blades, Spartan-George V-14 Dagger
_Extrema Ratio, Suppressor Operativo
_Cold Steel, Taïpan 3V
I am in serach of a true combat dagger.
The dagger must have sharp edges.
It won't be use for utility it will be a military use only dagger.
I hope not but the fact I can use it in a real fight is probable (third deployment).
Can you geve me some advises on these knives (Or on similar knives)?
Best regards.
I am in search for a new dagger and I hesitate between three different models:
_Spartan Blades, Spartan-George V-14 Dagger
_Extrema Ratio, Suppressor Operativo
_Cold Steel, Taïpan 3V
I am in serach of a true combat dagger.
The dagger must have sharp edges.
It won't be use for utility it will be a military use only dagger.
I hope not but the fact I can use it in a real fight is probable (third deployment).
Can you geve me some advises on these knives (Or on similar knives)?
Best regards.
I would suggest opening a new thread asking that question, rather than digging up an old thread.
New threads work better...they more effectively get your question answered.
Hello,
Thanks you Marcinek, I am a newbie here.
Best regards.
I would suggest opening a new thread asking that question, rather than digging up an old thread.
New threads work better...they more effectively get your question answered.
Thanks you Marcinek, I am a newbie here.
Best regards.