Am I Expecting Too Much?

Discussion in 'Chris Reeve Knives' started by Lenny, Feb 24, 2021.

  1. dan35


    Apr 21, 2009
    Sebenza 21 is a nice knife. Nothing is perfect. Nothing.

    Spyderco has a Native Chief sprint out. It’s solid as a brick shithouse. No doubt business is different at CRK. They make nice knives. I don’t buy into the lore of old.

    If you want close to perfect buy from a local dealer and try before you buy. Tell them your serious and your loyal if they can provide what your looking for.
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  2. dan35


    Apr 21, 2009
    sorry. duplicate post.
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2021
  3. Gizler00

    Gizler00 Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 19, 2006
    I’ll say it again....... I’ve had quite a few CRK’s over the years and never ever thought to try and do a table flex on them and see what happened. Everyone of them I owned has been used and sometimes beaten on mercilessly with no issues. The worst being a small inkosi. I’m going to take a wild guess and say that all the ones I have and the current small PJ 21 all had and have the same flex. But what does it really matter. Kind of like a spine whack test. Unless you have side to side play.......I wouldn’t worry about it.
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  4. Ron Sabbagh

    Ron Sabbagh Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Sep 15, 1999
    Simple physics dictates that a folder will never give you the rigidity of a fixed blade.

    Any folder will eventually "flex" in the manner you tested.

    If the knife is not used in the manner tested, I agree with Sharp & Fiery - if there is no flex when used as intended, there is no problem
  5. hhmoore

    hhmoore Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 7, 2014
    Can you imagine being a shop owner, and some guy asks to see a crk...then starts doing these flex tests on the counter?
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  6. pvicenzi

    pvicenzi Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 25, 2008
    Sometimes I think all folding knife users should have to serve a 1 year probationary period using a traditional slip joint.
  7. hhmoore

    hhmoore Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 7, 2014
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  8. pvicenzi

    pvicenzi Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 25, 2008
    Zero lock rock. Zero lock, and they have worked for hundreds of years.
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  9. Buzsaw


    Nov 15, 2020
    ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
    What he said.
  10. sailfish

    sailfish Basic Member Basic Member

    Jan 1, 2019
    That made me laugh my ass off picturing that.
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  11. dan35


    Apr 21, 2009
    Agree, this would be a head slap. Never thought someone would think of this test at a shop. I was thinking you could handle the knife like a normal person and pick the best or just pass.
  12. Dcdavis

    Dcdavis Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 13, 2018
    Same here. I laughed several times thinking about it
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  13. Adamar


    Dec 9, 2008
    Everyone knows the "lock flex" is a very highly desirable feature. My small 31 has very very minor flex. I think the smalls have less flex than the large because of the shorter lock bar. I do not think the flex has any negative impacts with normal usage, but this knife should have none. I consider the flex in the same category as centered blades. It causes no functional issues, but should not be present on a high quality knife.
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  14. Alpha556

    Alpha556 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 29, 2017
    This whole placing the knife on the table and pressing down on the spine is not a good way to see if you knife has flex or blade play. I dont know why people got the idea that this was right method.
    If your going to be placing pounds of force on the spine of the knife than of course your going to see slight flex.
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  15. Lenny

    Lenny Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 15, 1998
    Wow, somebody actually agrees with me.

    Yes, in theory I agree with you.
    BUT, why don't I see flex in any of my other frame lock or liner lock knives when doing the same test?????
  16. russ25


    Jun 19, 2012
    I agree with you Lenny, it is a shame this is acceptable these days.

    I should clarify here, My only concerns with the way things are now is the blade play issue. If I need to whack the spine of a blade I would use a fixed blade.
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2021
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  17. Lenny

    Lenny Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 15, 1998
    Yes it is.
    I would return an $80 knife that didn’t have a centered blade, yet people accept vert play and lock bar flex on a $450 knife as normal.
    I’m thinking long and hard about selling my Sebenza and only sticking with reliable knives like Spydercos and others. Yeah they don’t have aerospace tolerances but neither do they have blade play nor lock bar flex. I just won’t buy another CRK again.
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  18. russ25


    Jun 19, 2012
    I am thankful for the knives I have that do meet my expectations, (all CRK's) However I don't see myself stepping away from them just yet. I really enjoy these knives, no doubt about it.
  19. pvicenzi

    pvicenzi Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 25, 2008
    You are entitled to your opinion, but it is none of your business as to what other people find acceptable in a knife. Go buy your other brands, and please, leave us alone.
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  20. Peter Hartwig

    Peter Hartwig Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    I doubt you will find many accepting vertical play. Flex is not the same thing. But you can do what you wish as far as selling. People sell knives for numerous dislikes, and if this qualifies as such to you , it may be best to move on. No reason to stick with something you are not happy with.
    However it is still a ridiculous test-up there with spine whacking IMO
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2021

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