vetkaw63 said:
You can't be timid!!!!! The razor has to be sharp. Sharper than a sharp knife. It shoud pop hair if you glide it ABOVE your arm! Really lather your face. Push the razor. It's easy. The razor will just glide over your skin!!!!!! If it doesn't you haven't sharpened it well enough!!!!! When people have problems or give up in frustration it is because they haven't mastered honing yet!! It has to be razor sharp, not sharp as in shaving sharp in knife lingo. Any junk steel can get to shave hair on your arm and still not give a satisfactory shave. You need special hones. Mine go up to about 15000 grit. Go to straightrazorplace. com and lurk. You will learn all you need to know. I am honing a 100 plus year old Wade & Butcher razor right now.
Mike Morris
So, has anyone ever tried a Shapton purple 30,000 grit stone? Can't imagine anyone spending over $600 bucks on a stone but the thing has me curious as hell and I've searched all over the net for any comments by anyone who has tried one but haven't found a thing (gee, for that price, they ought to give out free samples!)
Don't really have a use for razors but I presume leather and wood carving tools etc. would sharpen in a similar manner so I thought I'd ask...
I've got a 5,000 pink Global (similar to Shapton's M5 series in that half of it is a ceramic substrate) that I really like (hard ceramic, very smooth and flat. Seems to work great on stainless kitchen knives) and a 15,000 Shapton that seems to do a nice job on my little camp knife and various whittling knives (seems about like stropping with green honing compound, though it seems to load a little... not so as to affect cutting action, but it is beginning to look a bit grungy).
I think my favorite is a 2-3k grit natural blue stone though... just like the way it makes its own mud , which seems to get smoother and smoother (works well, and it is just fun playing in the mud ^-^), so it has gotten me curious about natural stones in the 10k-20k grit range, (as well as the Belgian blue and yellow garnet stones). Anyone try Uchigumori or other polishing stones on razors, plane blades, scalpels, micrtome blades or what-have-you? And, would they really be better than the Shapton?
Seems like buying sharpening stones is such a hit or miss thing (i.e. I've got two artificial stones of the same grit, but one is softer than the other and they each work better on different kinds of steel) that it would be great if someone created a site or forum just to collect user reviews of various stones along with notes on how well they work with various tools / steels.