Anyone carry a Kubotan

[bitter1]

I have been looking at them and they seem pretty neat and simple and a nice little piece of SD (self defense) equipment, I was thinking of making of my own how hard can it be. Doesn't look like it takes too much skill to use although I'm sure that is not the case. I'm thinkg I would carry it on a carabiner on my belt loop.

 

[65535]

A kubaton would definitely be a SD device that would demand training, even untrained an attacker could seize the piece and use it against you. I'm sure though local martial arts academies offer simple pressure point training. This is key as rather than a weapon the kubaton is more of a force multiplier a simple machine if you will, the multiplied force on a pressure point is what makes it effective.

 

[Phil Elmore]

A kubaton would definitely be a SD device that would demand training, even untrained an attacker could seize the piece and use it against you. I'm sure though local martial arts academies offer simple pressure point training. This is key as rather than a weapon the kubaton is more of a force multiplier a simple machine if you will, the multiplied force on a pressure point is what makes it effective.

You're actually telling me you are afraid of someone using your own kubotan against you? Good god. Which is it? Either the weapon "demands training" or it is so intuitive that "even untrained an attacker could seize the piece and use it against you." It cannot be both.

 

[Absintheur]

I use a Monadnock "D"-Jammer on my keyring. This tool was designed as a multifuntion tool by Massad Ayoob and it can perform several functions. First it can be used as a kubutan and I have been trained in how to use it for that. It can also serve to d-jam a semi-auto, remove a stuck bullet, be used as a cleaning rod (the end is threaded to accept brushes and jags), and even as a survival tool/weapon as the threaded end will also fit broadheads.

Training is key however, the kubutan is used to attack pressure points and if you don't know where they are then it doesn't really work for that...lol. It also functions as a great come along when used on the little nerve bunch in the wrist. It is a last ditch SD device, my choice is not to let anyone get close enough to me to have to resort to one but better to have it and not need it than need one and not have it!

 

[soccergod04]

I carry one every day. There's a thread over in PracTac right now about them. The one I carry is a polymer from Alpha Innovations. It's light to carry and sturdy as can be!

 

[OwenM]

I used to carry one all the time, and still do occasionally. Nothing could be simpler to use, and they're very effective as an impact weapon on muscle or bone. Getting it off a carabiner is going to be slow. IWB with something hanging from it, like a wrist loop with something on the end is faster. Most comfortable for me is sticking it in my back pocket next to my wallet(doesn't work for pants with real wide back pockets, and hard to get out of slacks, mostly-fine with jeans for me). Doesn't sound secure, but I've had the same kubaton for 15+ years and haven't lost it.
One of my friends made several from aluminum bar stock on his lathe years ago, and grooved them like my over the counter version. Simple to make if you've got a lathe. You could knurl it...

 

[Gollnick]

Anyone carry a Kubotan[?]

Who doesn't?

Got a pen? It doesn't have to be made of titanium and have some special pointed end.

Got a small flashlight? It doesn't have to be super-bright or have spikes on the end of it.

Got a stylus for your PDA or cellphone?

These things are all kubotans. There's no need to spend a lot of money or carry something conspicuous.

...they seem pretty neat and simple and a nice little piece of SD (self defense) equipment

In some situations, they can be very effective and useful.

I was thinking of making of my own how hard can it be.

There's the spirit. There is just no need to spend your money on one of these things.

Doesn't look like it takes too much skill to use although I'm sure that is not the case.

There's using and then there's Using. Basically using the thing? Just hit with it; it'll be effective. But, you can make it much more effective if you learn where and how to hit. And, it'll be maximumally-effective if you learn how to use it to reinforce joint locks and attack pressure points.

I'm thinkg I would carry it on a carabiner on my belt loop.

That may prove difficult to deploy from in a crisis situation. But, if you just want to wear the thing as a fashion accessory, then that'll work fine.

 

[Charlie Fox]

I've carried one since High School (27 years?!). I've used mine mostly as an offensive device for moving drunks and other "non-helpers". I started carrying a Space Pen 12 years ago after taking a class that showed I didn't need a 6" length of plastic hanging from my keys.

 

[Absintheur]

Why would I need to remove the keys to use it as a kubutan? Works just fine with them on there...lol.

 

[stabman]

You're actually telling me you are afraid of someone using your own kubotan against you? Good god. Which is it? Either the weapon "demands training" or it is so intuitive that "even untrained an attacker could seize the piece and use it against you." It cannot be both.

Dammit, why'd you have to go post something that makes sense? Now I find a situation where I agree with you!
One of the great things about a kubotan is the fact that an untrained person, if they DO get it away from you, generally will make very ineffectual attacks(I saw it before; REALLY funny).

 

[Benjamin Liu]

I have a couple eda koppo, but don't carry them. IMO a flashlight can do everything a palm stick can do, and also work as a light. Even before 9-11 Kubotans were considered weapons and not allowed in some restricted areas while even today flashlights are allowed in most places.

I'll admit that there are some really nice palm sticks out there, but a flashlight is more practical for EDC.

For people wanting a loop like on some eda koppo, there were instructions posted on one of the forums on how to make a paracord wrap with a loop for a Mini-Maglight.

 

[Ed Ricketts]

Been carrying a metal flashlight for some time, as it turns out, never needed it for thumping or bumping, but having a light comes in handy quite often.

 

[bitter1]

i have a surefire e2d so i guess that can be used to cause some hurt