I got a small Deba style knife made for Food Network for Christmas. It appears to be some sort of damascus, and the package said something about 33 layers. It came shaving sharp out of the clam shell. The edge is very thin, between 0.01 and 0.005 behind the edge, with a full flat grind on ~ 1.75" wide blade. It cuts very well for soft food. I notices a couple of flat spots on the edge and resharpened it with 220 & 1000 grit waterstones, Spyderco Medium and Fine, then stropped on 0.3 micron lapping film. The edge is very sharp now. I just hope it holds it longer than my RADA Santoku.