Anyone know the California knife law on carrying a knife?

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I kept reading the law and I am just confused. Bottom line is:

1) Is assisted open folding knife like a lot of the Kershaw legal to carry? They use spring to help opening the flipper knife, it's even easier than a good flipper with ball bearings.

2) Folding knives with a LOCK button on top of the normal frame lock. It's Cold Steel Crawford Model 1 or Off-Grid Badger. They both have a sliding button to lock the blade.

Thanks
 
Well there are state laws but each county has different laws as does each city. I think you're in the wrong forum as well. The issue you may run into is blade length.
 
Well there are state laws but each county has different laws as does each city. I think you're in the wrong forum as well. The issue you may run into is blade length.
Yes, I know, SF has to be under 3" in their city law, the general state law has no length limit of length in general. That part is very clear, it's the definition of dagger, fixed blade and switch blade part that are like talking out of both sides of the mouth.
 
I kept reading the law and I am just confused. Bottom line is:

1) Is assisted open folding knife like a lot of the Kershaw legal to carry? They use spring to help opening the flipper knife, it's even easier than a good flipper with ball bearings.

2) Folding knives with a LOCK button on top of the normal frame lock. It's Cold Steel Crawford Model 1 or Off-Grid Badger. They both have a sliding button to lock the blade.

Thanks

The statute in the California penal code that defines a switchblade specifically exempts folding knives that open by applying pressure to any part of the blade (like a flipper tab, it's part of the blade), and that has a detent or other mechanism that creates a bias toward the closed position (like with a liner lock).

As for the Crawford Model 1 and Off-Grid Badger, they both have flipper tabs for opening, and they both appear to be liner locks, which I assume have detents. If all that is true, then they would not meet the California state definition of a switchblade, gravity knife, etc, and would be legal to carry.

As for Kershaw assisted opening knives, you didn't specify a model, but what I just explained would also apply.

Assisted knives are perfectly legal to own and carry as long as they are designed to be opened by applying pressure to some part of the blade, and as long as they have a bias towards the closed position when closed. Of course local laws may vary and might have blade length limits.

Here is a link to the actual statute defining what a switchblade is in California law on the official California state legislature website-


Also, switchblades of any size are legal to own in California, but only switchblades with blades under 2" are legal to carry.
 
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Not many people are aware that ÇA schools have their own laws about knives.

Section 626.10 of the ÇA Penal Code includes the following:

” knife having a blade longer than 21/2 inches, (and any) folding knife with a blade that locks into place”

Penalties include fines and jail time. Although, in CA, jail for misdemeanors varies by county DA.

Exemptions include possession for official use, and in real life it’s probably not a problem for responsible well behaved good folks. However, students and non-students causing trouble and committing crimes can be held accountable. And yes, real crimes do occur on & about elementary through high school campuses - some communities much more than others. College campuses as well.

FWIW, and hopefully your kids attend one of the quiet schools.
 
Not many people are aware that ÇA schools have their own laws about knives.

Section 626.10 of the ÇA Penal Code includes the following:

” knife having a blade longer than 21/2 inches, (and any) folding knife with a blade that locks into place”

Penalties include fines and jail time. Although, in CA, jail for misdemeanors varies by county DA.

Exemptions include possession for official use, and in real life it’s probably not a problem for responsible well behaved good folks. However, students and non-students causing trouble and committing crimes can be held accountable. And yes, real crimes do occur on & about elementary through high school campuses - some communities much more than others. College campuses as well.

FWIW, and hopefully your kids attend one of the quiet schools.
That I know already. I bought the Off-Grid Baby Rhino just for that.
 
Hopefully, someone will take the state to court on this issue post Bruen.
 
Spent nearly my entire life in CA, if you are rural no worries.... this is not legal advice, just MY reality of living in San Bernardino County for most of my life. Cities beware. Generally speaking fixed blades like a Ka-Bar or something are fine carried open. Folders that bias towards staying closed and auto knives with blades less than 2" are okay in MOST places. Other knives like auto knives 2" blade or longer may be owned and possessed in the home, but cannot be sold, transferred, transported, or pretty much anything other than stared at. How it got there is obviously a mystery...

CA knife laws are not as bad as some states, but they do vary by municipalities for sure so be careful.
 
I kept reading the law and I am just confused. Bottom line is:

1) Is assisted open folding knife like a lot of the Kershaw legal to carry? They use spring to help opening the flipper knife, it's even easier than a good flipper with ball bearings.

2) Folding knives with a LOCK button on top of the normal frame lock. It's Cold Steel Crawford Model 1 or Off-Grid Badger. They both have a sliding button to lock the blade.

Thanks
This is a great question, I wanted to carry a butterfly knife but a button lock flipper I think would suit me better! “ is this kind of knife legal or is California ignorant enough to look at this like a switchblade!
 
This is a great question, I wanted to carry a butterfly knife but a button lock flipper I think would suit me better! “ is this kind of knife legal or is California ignorant enough to look at this like a switchblade!

There is a difference between what is legal and what a cop may or may not think is legal Allen. If you get arrested in LA or SF for a knife that's technically legal, and in court your $10K lawyer is able to prove that... did you have a good day? The likelihood of this ever being an issue is probably pretty small unless you have your area code tattooed on your forehead, but if there's a question and you think it's marginal you'd probably better ask a legal professional and not me or anyone else on a forum that doesn't practice law in that state.

The knife you are describing is legal as far as I know in most everyplace in CA but I would be careful in some municipalities. That's what I would do if I still lived there, thank God I do not.
 
In central California in modern times I have had no trouble whatsoever carrying fill lengths machetes on my belt, as well as full size antique bolo knives. I've had to interact with police on various occasions and I have never had any trouble. If anyone makes a mention of it at the grocery store or something I simply say that it's legal on the belt. The police have always agreed with me. In California any knife that is over 2 ½ of blade is supposed to be open carried, thus can be on your belt, on your neck in a sheaf, on your backpack, or on your shoulder like a samurai. Folding knives aren't supposed to open with a button, but the ones that have the rear nub that sticks out when closed, counts as part of the blade, so pressing on it to let the spring Open the knife is legal. And frankly you can get away with 3 inch folders in your pocket too. Just be careful that a knife you are wearing isn't concealed, like in a horizontal carry on the back of your belt. I usually carry a fixed blade there and it does get hidden by my coat, but when I have to deal with a cop I generally draw them with my back to him for a ways away where he can see, then drop them, then turn around and approach him to see how I can be of assistance. Sometimes they will pat to double check but not usually, I always carry 2 knifes. There are a lot of ways to strip a knife from someone if you know what your doing, but there has not yet been a method devised to disarm a knife from each hand without getting poked extensively. Except for shooting the person obviously. I do alot of knife throwing, and stuff like that, nothing too nefarious of course. But I have had to use a knife to prevent myself from being seriously harmed before. I'm happy to box someone's ears to settle a disagreement, but if 4 thugs try to get your wallet, a blade will change the game quite a bit sometimes. ( Yes I know your supposed to give the wallet and flee, but that would have resulted in marking myself as a prey animal and invited widespread problems. Sometimes teaching someone that your definitely not worth the effort is in fact the only way to go. I just can't punk out like that, I wouldn't be able to respect myself.)
Buy anyway, avoid double edged knifes, hidden knifes like sword canes And belt buckle knifes etc, no switchblades or butterflies, or push knives. Don't take them to government buildings like schools, dmv or courthouses. Hospital won't let them in but will store them for you at security desk on the way in. Otherwise your pretty much good. Ohh, no stinger knives either, you okay, the one that injects the wound cavity with compressed air through pores on the blande and a tank in the handle. Turns a knife wound into a shotgun blast. Hell of a thing.
 
In central California in modern times I have had no trouble whatsoever carrying fill lengths machetes on my belt, as well as full size antique bolo knives. I've had to interact with police on various occasions and I have never had any trouble. If anyone makes a mention of it at the grocery store or something I simply say that it's legal on the belt. The police have always agreed with me. In California any knife that is over 2 ½ of blade is supposed to be open carried, thus can be on your belt, on your neck in a sheaf, on your backpack, or on your shoulder like a samurai. Folding knives aren't supposed to open with a button, but the ones that have the rear nub that sticks out when closed, counts as part of the blade, so pressing on it to let the spring Open the knife is legal. And frankly you can get away with 3 inch folders in your pocket too. Just be careful that a knife you are wearing isn't concealed, like in a horizontal carry on the back of your belt. I usually carry a fixed blade there and it does get hidden by my coat, but when I have to deal with a cop I generally draw them with my back to him for a ways away where he can see, then drop them, then turn around and approach him to see how I can be of assistance. Sometimes they will pat to double check but not usually, I always carry 2 knifes. There are a lot of ways to strip a knife from someone if you know what your doing, but there has not yet been a method devised to disarm a knife from each hand without getting poked extensively. Except for shooting the person obviously. I do alot of knife throwing, and stuff like that, nothing too nefarious of course. But I have had to use a knife to prevent myself from being seriously harmed before. I'm happy to box someone's ears to settle a disagreement, but if 4 thugs try to get your wallet, a blade will change the game quite a bit sometimes. ( Yes I know your supposed to give the wallet and flee, but that would have resulted in marking myself as a prey animal and invited widespread problems. Sometimes teaching someone that your definitely not worth the effort is in fact the only way to go. I just can't punk out like that, I wouldn't be able to respect myself.)
Buy anyway, avoid double edged knifes, hidden knifes like sword canes And belt buckle knifes etc, no switchblades or butterflies, or push knives. Don't take them to government buildings like schools, dmv or courthouses. Hospital won't let them in but will store them for you at security desk on the way in. Otherwise your pretty much good. Ohh, no stinger knives either, you okay, the one that injects the wound cavity with compressed air through pores on the blande and a tank in the handle. Turns a knife wound into a shotgun blast. Hell of a thing.
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Perfectly legal as long as they are not concealed just like any other fixed blade in California.
 
I kept reading the law and I am just confused. Bottom line is:

1) Is assisted open folding knife like a lot of the Kershaw legal to carry? They use spring to help opening the flipper knife, it's even easier than a good flipper with ball bearings.

2) Folding knives with a LOCK button on top of the normal frame lock. It's Cold Steel Crawford Model 1 or Off-Grid Badger. They both have a sliding button to lock the blade.

Thanks
Your safest bet is a slip joint with lss than 4 iinch blade, automatc and switchblade must be under 2 inch blade in California, my suggestion, get a benchmade weekender, or swiss army knife because those are the two safest you can count on if you get searched
 
There is a difference between what is legal and what a cop may or may not think is legal Allen. If you get arrested in LA or SF for a knife that's technically legal, and in court your $10K lawyer is able to prove that... did you have a good day? The likelihood of this ever being an issue is probably pretty small unless you have your area code tattooed on your forehead, but if there's a question and you think it's marginal you'd probably better ask a legal professional and not me or anyone else on a forum that doesn't practice law in that state.

The knife you are describing is legal as far as I know in most everyplace in CA but I would be careful in some municipalities. That's what I would do if I still lived there, thank God I do not.
No I don’t have my area code tattooed on me , it’s already my birthday 😂 9.16 ! ; it’s crazy “ my father lives in ohio were you can open carry a butterfly and the cops would have to take into account the reason why! And my mother in Sacramento! “ we’re the 2a laws are probably the most restrictive the united states!
 
No I don’t have my area code tattooed on me , it’s already my birthday 😂 9.16 ! ; it’s crazy “ my father lives in ohio were you can open carry a butterfly and the cops would have to take into account the reason why! And my mother in Sacramento! “ we’re the 2a laws are probably the most restrictive the united states!

Ahhhhh the 916 which some of the locals really like to tat, because it's also Mexican independence day. 😉

I had my CCW there so having a knife for protection wasn't really a concern, I just carried a spring-assist SOG which let's be honest is as fast as any auto or butterfly if you practice at all with it. Yeah it's crazy out here in Tennessee we can buy anything over the counter or through the mail, zero knife laws and very few gun laws yet I don't see any difference whatsoever in the reported stabbings and shootings. It's a pretty small segment of society that stab or shoot humans, and we carry to protect ourselves from that segment. Another discussion for another day.

Good luck sir, I would consult a lawyer if you're really concerned about it but if it's something some place like Blade HQ will ship to you, you're probably okay. Stick around, tell us about yourself and visit the marketplace. It's a great forum and there are fantastic people to deal with here.
 
Edged weapons expert David E. Steele lived in Los Angeles for most of his life and routinely carried a 3.6" Gerber FSII lockblade folder as his EDC. This was well-publicized in the many articles that he wrote for Soldier of Fortune magazine, Black Belt and other periodicals. I believe he knew what was legal.
 
Ahhhhh the 916 which some of the locals really like to tat, because it's also Mexican independence day. 😉

I had my CCW there so having a knife for protection wasn't really a concern, I just carried a spring-assist SOG which let's be honest is as fast as any auto or butterfly if you practice at all with it. Yeah it's crazy out here in Tennessee we can buy anything over the counter or through the mail, zero knife laws and very few gun laws yet I don't see any difference whatsoever in the reported stabbings and shootings. It's a pretty small segment of society that stab or shoot humans, and we carry to protect ourselves from that segment. Another discussion for another day.

Good luck sir, I would consult a lawyer if you're really concerned about it but if it's something some place like Blade HQ will ship to you, you're probably okay. Stick around, tell us about yourself and visit the marketplace. It's a great forum and there are fantastic people to deal with here.
I agree this is the place to be when it comes to this conversation ! And I guess I should go to my county public law library, huh !?? Having cerebral palsy and seeing the one armed exception I have questions! Lol
 
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