Aqua Velva in glass jars

Harry Callahan

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Get it while you can folks. The new "shatterproof" bottle is out. Avoid it at all costs! Same formula (according to the manufacturer). But let's face facts here. Would John Wayne use Aqua Velva out of a plastic container? Eastwood? De Niro? Erm.... Don't think so! Get it in glass while you still can! My local Kmart has three bottles left. I was out of greenbacks or they would have been in my shave den. Payday rolls around and if they're still there, they're mine all mine.

Just a headzup. Check your local retailer. Get these glass bottles while you still can. You've been warned. :D
 
Do we like aqua-velva? Never actually used it, but it always reminds me of airport bathrooms and used car salesmen.

and of course the advertisment.

aahhhHH SPLASH! bring on the blue!
 
Aqua Velva is an amazing product for the price. It hasn't remained an American classic since 1930-something for no reason. I'm worried that the change to plastic will necessitate a change of formulation to be compatible with plastic instead of glass. So, I bought up a considerable supply of AVinG.

When I first saw the plastic bottle, I picked it up to feel it and, as I handled it, I suddenly felt a chil on my hand and smelled the familiar scent. The bottle may be shatter-proof, but the plastic cap was cracked.
 
Would John Wayne use Aqua Velva out of a plastic container? Eastwood? De Niro? Erm.... Don't think so!

Is it just me, or do others also find it hard to believe that Hollywood "tough guys" use aftershave?
 
No that was the HIKARATE I still have in the medicine cabinet. Always afraid to still try because it may have decomposed.
 
I like Aqua Velva Ice Blue a lot. Aqua Velva musk smells like disco and used car salesman in the bottle and not much better on me. My 3 yr old son always likes to watch me shave, and he "shaves" with a razor with no blade in it.
He also always wants me to put after shave on his cheeks, too. His favorite is Master Bay Rum. Though he likes Aqua Velva and Master Iceland Breeze too.
He wanted to try some of my AV Musk so I put some on his cheeks and it actually smelled good on him. I guess I'll have to put it in the freezer for the next 13 years and then give it to him when he starts shaving.
 
Is it just me, or do others also find it hard to believe that Hollywood "tough guys" use aftershave?

They probably didn't use deodorant in those days either:D

Don't like aftershave myself, not because it's not 'tough' but it dries up the skin and then lingers:eek:
 
I stopped in shoppers drug mart, but they were already plastic bottles and the scent turned me off. I'm happy enough with the razor rock (alum) anyways.
 
AV is my cheap aftershave when I know I won't go out after I shave :)


It's very strong though, I dilute it with witch hazel. I have yet to try the green one we have in Canuckland.
 
While marketed as an aftershave, AV really straddles the line between aftershave and cologne. This is an American style of product.

A traditional aftershave has only the slightest of scent which is there to cover up the medicinal/antiseptic/astringent smell of the active ingredients... which are medicinal, antiseptic, and astringent in nature. The scent of an aftershave is supposed to be light and dissipate quickly making room for a more scent-purposed product. But the American man is motivated by efficiency; his time is money. So, he wants one product that he can apply once that takes care of it all. It's very time-economical, very efficient... very American!

If you take a look at the fragrance profile of AV, it's really quite sophisticated (from www.basenotes.net)

Top Notes: Bergamot, Lavender, Peppermint, Petitgrain, Lemon

Middle Notes: Clary Sage, Jasmin, Vetiver, Sandalwood, Cedarwood

Base Notes: Labdanum, Musk, Amber, Moss, Leather

You can rest assured that every note in AV is artificial, but some would argue that that gives it a more American, more modern, smell. And it still compares to many fancy European men's fragrance products costing twenty or thirty times as much.

AV does go on a bit strong, but that's to cover up the alcohol, glycerin, menthol, and benzophenone as an aftershave should. Then, as an aftershave should, it dies down pretty fast. However, as an American-style all-in-one aftershave, it does keep a nice, fresh fragrance which lasts for several hours. It's a good, clean, modern (even 80 years later), American fragrance for an American man. It hasn't endured as an American favorite since 1935 for no reason.
 
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The only aftershave I ever used was plain rubbing alcohol. And in the last couple years, I even stopped using that. Forget about AV and all that stuff. Real men don't abide perfumes.

As far as John Wayne, DeNiro, Eastwood, etc. those guys wear makeup and play make believe for a living! Why should anyone really care what they do?
 
A splash of rubbing alcohol is all I normally use, myself. I have oily skin so I really do actually need not a moisturizer (which AV unfortunately includes) but a drying agent and astringent which the alcohol is perfectly.
 
ive used av every day since I was in high school and I don't even shave.:eek: :rolleyes: ;)..and then I use alcohol too..just not the rubbing kind.:) :D
 
I use an alum block and/or witch hazel after I shave. Then I apply my AS splash or balm. AV is one of my all time favorites.
At least it doesn't smell like Axe or some other metrosexual AS.
 
I never understood the whole aftershave thing. I've tried it several times over the years but don't understand what it's supposed to do. I guess some guys feel like their faces should sting after a shave so they slap some on. If you have a hard time finding the glass bottles e-mail me...I have several years worth which have accumulated under my bathroom sink from many Fathers' days and Christmasses past.
 
It's primary function is as an antiseptic. No matter how skillfully you scrape a razor across your face there are going to be some nicked pores. Alcohol probibly isnt the best for this, but it works. It also closes pores, tones the skin and moisturizes depending on what you use. Not necessary for everybody, but an enjoyable aspect for some.

I haven't really used many... Just use an Alum bar and moisturizer myself.

Do aftershave 'splashes' all taste bad? I don't mean to drink. but residue on the skin.
 
Do aftershave 'splashes' all taste bad? I don't mean to drink. but residue on the skin.

All alcohol-based aftershaves do, yes.

But, to explain that, let's look first at something else: the Oceans. Oceans, in this case, is a men's cologne introduced last year by Nautica. It caused quite a stir in the fragrance world -- which is to say the proverbial tempest in a tea cup. The attention it attracted wasn't so much because of its fragrance. It's a well-done men's aquatic which has been generally well-received. But, being mass-marketed, it is -- of course -- not exactly daring or innovative or even distinctive; the fragrance is confected for mass-market appeal. What caused the excitment was not the rather-conventional fragrance. What caused the excitment is its formulation; specifically, it is water-based and contains no alcohol.

For a cologne, a perfume, to be water-based is virtually unheard of. There are some oil-based perfumes, but they are virtually all quite exotic. Virtually all colognes and perfumes have long been alcohol-based.

You see, most of the breadth of what the nose can detect is due to chemicals from the chemical family which chemists call esters. The ester family is one of the largest, most common, and most diverse groups of chemicals. Most of what we smell is due to small, light-weight, volitile members of the ester family.

Esters are made by reacting an oxygen-containing acid with either an alcohol or a phenol. For example, if you mix butyric acid and ethanol alcohol, you'll easily product the ester Ethyl Butrate.

But you won't be the only one producing Ethyl Butrate. Pineapple plants produce Ethyl Butrate too. And Ethyl Butrate is the chemical which give s pineapple most of its fragrance. Ethyl Butrate is also produced by strawberries and is part of what gives strawberries their fragrance.

If you were to use formic acid instead of butyric acid, you would easily form the ester Ethyl Formate. Ethyl Formate is the chemical produced by lemon plants which is largely responsible for the fragrance of lemons. It's also part of what gives strawberries their fragrance.

(As an aside, the fragrance of pineapple is almost entirely due to Ethyl Butrate. In face, anyone sniffing Ethyl Butrate blindfolded would swear that they were smelling pineapple. Similarily, the fragrance of lemons is almostly entirely due to Ethyl Formate. The fragrance of strawberries, on the other hand, is a combination of several esters. There is no one chemical which gives the fragrance of strawberries. This is why it is rare to see the delicious and very attractive fragrance of strawberries as a note in perfume or as a fragrance in other products. Creating that fragrance requires creating several chemicals which is much more expensive. Furthermore, blending those components together so that the result smells of strawberries without also having hints of pineapple, lemon, and other things has proven ellusive.)

These volitile, small, light-weight esters are often called "essential oils," not because they have some physical traits in common with petroleum oil, specifically, they are thick, sticky, viscous liquids which don't dissolve in or even mix with water.

The scent of most of these esthers is, when coming from the pure esther, is unbearably strong, so strong that it doesn't smell like what it's "supposed to." A whiff of pure Ethyl Butrate straight from the bottle will not remind you much of pineapple. In fact, it'll probably send you reaching for the trash can to vomit into. To smell like pineapple, it has to be seriously diluted, down to the parts-per-million range.

Because Esters are not soluable in water, that dilution can't be done with water. Esters are, however, soluable in alcohol... ethyl alcohol, aka ethanol, in particular.

So, most perfumes and cologne and other fragrance products consists of tiny amounts of esthers dissolved in large amounts of ethanol.

But ethanol is "drinking alcohol." It's what puts the alcohol... and "buzz"... in gin, vodka, whiskey, etc. The "proof" of a liquor is just twice its concentration by volume of ethanol. 80-Proof whiskey is 40% ethanol.

Because of its drinking use, ethanol and products containing any significant quantity of ethanol are taxed and also age-restricted to purchase.

Perfume manufacturers can avoid the tax and break open the age restrictions by using "specially denatured" alchohol. The drinkability of it is deliberately ruined by addng a pinch of denatonium benzoate to it. Denatonium benzoate is difficult to separate from the alcohol. Curiously, denatonium benzoate is also the bitterest-tasting substance known to man. Most people can't stand to taste it much in excess of about 10 PPM. Fortunately, not being a ester, it's pretty much odorless.

Any fragrance product, aftershave, cologne, or perfume, which is alcohol-based will be made using SD-40B Alcohol. SD-40B stands for "the 40th formula for specially-denatured" alchohol. SD-40B was specifiucally formlated for use in fragrance products where any trace odor of whatever is used to "denature" the alcohol is unacceptable, but an unpleasant flavor is not a problem.

There are other formulas of "specially-denatured" alcohol for other purposes which have all been some how adulterated to prevent their use as a drinking alcohol thus keeping them being taxed and restricted as such.

So, when you taste a fragrance product, aftershave, cologne, or perfume, what you're really tasting, the taste which is so strong that it absolutely drowns out the taste of anything else in the mix, is denatonium benzoate.

Nautica Oceans, which does not contain SD-40B or any other alcohol, is a rare exception.
 
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