Arc Lock vs. Axis Lock

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Just looking at the Arc Lock on SOG's website. Looks like a blatent copy of the Axis-Lock to me. What's the difference? Any feedback on how well it works?
 
I think the arc lock feels smoother. That might just be mind tricks though. I read somewhere on these forums that they work differently.
 
Hi TRX,

The "Axis lock" is a rod that slides forwards and backwards riding in slots in the scales.

The "Arc lock" is a "dog's leg" that rotates on a pivot. Nothing slides forwards or backwards. The Arc lock is more like the Rolling lock that the Axis lock.

sal
 
I think that for most users, they will notice little difference in strength. There probably is a difference, but not enough I think to overcome how you feel about a particular knife in the hand, what kind of blade characteristics it has, etc. That is what makes it so difficult to give someone advice on a knife. I tend to recommend the Griptilian, Native, or Delica. I think those knives give excellent value in a good size package and with some options on blade steel and shape. I am a huge fan of the axis lock, and not a big fan of SOG, but it has no relation to their quality, just what I in particular look for.
 
Call me crazy.....but wasn't REKAT using the "Arc lock" years before Benchmade and SOG started using it. I think they called it something else "rolling lock" maybe, that looks suspiciously like the "Arc lock". Just a thought.;)

Cheers,
Rob
 
jeffreyliu838 said:
I think the arc lock feels smoother. That might just be mind tricks though. I read somewhere on these forums that they work differently.
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I tend to agree...I handled a few Axis and Arc locks, and Arc locks just work much smoother out of the box. Not to much difference really...after using my Griptilian (axis lock) a lot and wearing it in I find it got a lot smoother then when I first bought it. They Both get the job done and work very well.:thumbup:
 
I currently own 2 arc locks the SOG Vulcan and the Spec Elite 1 and 2 axis locks the Benchmade 615 and the Ritter Griptilian. The Arc lock feels smoother out of the box but after a few months of use they feel about the same. I do not really prefer one over the other but I definitely prefer them both to liner locks.
 
it depends on the knife itself. I personally like linerlocks, providing the knife is a quality one, and not a ccc.

I never had a axis lock, but had a arc lock. it was very smooth.
 
I didn't like the Arc-Lock on the Tomcat 3.0. It was kind of a disappointment because I really like the look and ergos on it. It felt akward to pull the lock bar back. It may just be that I need to get accustomed to it though. I know the Axis felt weird when I first played with it.
 
Sal Glesser said:
Hi TRX,

The "Axis lock" is a rod that slides forwards and backwards riding in slots in the scales.

The "Arc lock" is a "dog's leg" that rotates on a pivot. Nothing slides forwards or backwards. The Arc lock is more like the Rolling lock than the Axis lock.

sal
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Thanks Sal, highly appreciate you taking the time to mention that.

Sadly, I just lost a lot of confidence in my SOG Mini X-ray Vision. :(
 
Sadly, I just lost a lot of confidence in my SOG Mini X-ray Vision.
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Why, if I may ask?

Seems to be a terribly strong lock, I haven't heard of problems with it. If you like the other features of your SOG knife, why the loss of confidence?
 
diamdave said:
Why, if I may ask?

Seems to be a terribly strong lock, I haven't heard of problems with it. If you like the other features of your SOG knife, why the loss of confidence?
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I noticed your sign-up date. I'm sure you recall back when Rolling locks were popular.... especially with the REKAT Sifu.

I'm trying really hard not to open up an old can of worms, or bring back memories of a certain thread on BF from back in the day.

If you are still unsure with regards to what I'm talking about, let me know; and I'll go into detail.
 
I have a mini x ray vision and have fooled around with a mini griptilian. I found the griptilian to be smoother but I am sure that there are variations with both. I had the spring come loose on my sog after about 9 months having it, and using it a descent bit. The knife still worked but sog recommended I send it back to them to get fixed, so I did and they took care of it. It did come back to me nice and tight so it is not as smooth as it was before, but all around it is very good knife and I have no worries about the lock failing on me.
 
jeffreyliu838 said:
Monocrom. Can you email me at jeffreyliu838@yahoo.com? Your email thing is disabled. I was interested in buying a roller lock BM, so I'd like some info on it. Thanks.
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Yeah, sorry about that. But there's a good reason for that. (Mostly because I've spent enough time on BF to know better).

But in this case, there's still no need for an e-mail. BM uses the Axis lock on their knives. It's different enough from the Arc lock and the older Rolling lock.

I generally prefer liner locks and frame locks. But I do have a Benchmade Griptilian that uses the Axis lock. It is rock solid. I'd go ahead and buy the knife, with no worries. :thumbup:
 
Monocrom said:
Yeah, sorry about that. But there's a good reason for that. (Mostly because I've spent enough time on BF to know better).

But in this case, there's still no need for an e-mail. BM uses the Axis lock on their knives. It's different enough from the Arc lock and the older Rolling lock.

I generally prefer liner locks and frame locks. But I do have a Benchmade Griptilian that uses the Axis lock. It is rock solid. I'd go ahead and buy the knife, with no worries. :thumbup:[/QUOTE

OT: What the reason for disabling the email?

Back on topic: I have little experience with either system. :o
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I have both and, at least on my knives, I notice that the Axis locks seem to allow the blade to "bounce" at the ends of their travel, while the Arc lock doesn't. This was especially noticeable on my 710 and Ritter Grip (larger, heavier blades), not so noticeable on my Mini-Grip. This seems to go away as you get more familiar with the knife and your timing on releasing the lock improves.

In spite of that, I feel that the BMs are better built and stronger for the most part.
 
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