Are these buffing compounds from Sears/Craftsman any good?? Also how each is used?

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I was milling about in the tool section on lunch last night, and noticed that Sears carries a selection of 6 different buffing compound sticks, for a reasonable price too (also get a discount :) ).

Just wondering if they would be any good? Here is the list, I recognize the green and white but I'm unsure what the others are used for.

Red Rouge

White Rouge (I remember seeing the white compound used in buffing handles, right?)

Brown Tripoli

Green Rouge (For buffing blades and loading a strop, correct?)

Blue Rouge

Black Emery (Also for buffing blades, I think, as well as stropping?)

They are all like $2.20 per 4oz. stick, which I thought was a very good price.
 
These are mild abrasives. Think silver polish. The different colors signify/result from the compounds consisting of different grits. You'd have to have a fine finish to start with before you noticed buffing compounds having much effect on hardened steel.
 
I know that much lol :) Not much into mirror polishing anyway. I am more concerned with how the different ones are used in relation to handle finishing (for different materials) and using them to load strops for edge finishing. However, I've only seen the White, Green and Black mentioned for those 2 things (White for handles; green/black for stropping). The other colors, blue, brown and red, are some that I haven't seen mentioned in my browsing.
 
Black
Brown
Green
Blue
Red
White

That is the rough order of grit from Coarse to Fine.

The various oxides of metals make the different colors, and they also polish different metals different ways.

The black and then brown are a pre-polish treatment that works on most all metals.
Green is especially good for stainless steel.
Blue is good for the final buffing on stainless ,aluminum, and brass.
Red is for soft metals like copper,brass,gold,and silver.
White is a non-staining polish and good for stainless steel, handle materials, and ivories.

To avoid undesired problems, use a dedicated buff for each type, and store it in a zip-lock bag with the polish.

Use a fine linen buff for ivory . Run the buff slow and use light on the pressure. Don't use this buff on any metal at all. It can be used to buff stabilized wood,too.
 
Kind of off topic but I thought I'd ask.

Is Zam a type of green rouge? Is it any good for knives?
 
Zam is a metal polish compound that is a blend. It is superb on soft metals. I don't care for it on steel, but it will work.

I find it the best polish for buffing silver and brass.
 
Zam is a metal polish compound that is a blend. It is superb on soft metals. I don't care for it on steel, but it will work.

I find it the best polish for buffing silver and brass.

Thanks!

That is what I figured, I have never tried it on steel but it works like magic on silver and brass. I think it has wax in it, maybe that is why it works so well.
 
Black
Brown
Green
Blue
Red
White

That is the rough order of grit from Coarse to Fine.

The various oxides of metals make the different colors, and they also polish different metals different ways.

The black and then brown are a pre-polish treatment that works on most all metals.
Green is especially good for stainless steel.
Blue is good for the final buffing on stainless ,aluminum, and brass.
Red is for soft metals like copper,brass,gold,and silver.
White is a non-staining polish and good for stainless steel, handle materials, and ivories.

To avoid undesired problems, use a dedicated buff for each type, and store it in a zip-lock bag with the polish.

Use a fine linen buff for ivory . Run the buff slow and use light on the pressure. Don't use this buff on any metal at all. It can be used to buff stabilized wood,too.

Thanks Stacy. This "No Scratch Pink" that I've been reading about in other threads...is it one step higher than the white?
 
No scratch pink is a white blend with extra tallow. It has a tad of red rouge to make it pink. It is a good final polish for most everything. Matchless White is the top polish for final things and ivory.
 
Thanks again! One more question to pick your brain :)...buffing compounds like these are used with a stitched buff, correct? What are those loose, floppy buffs used for?
 
Stitched buffs are stiffer when spinning and don't "mushroom" out against the work. This allows more pressure and more cutting by the abrasives. Unstitched wheels make a smoother and less aggressive cut. They are for final polishing, and create less scratching. Muslin is coarser than Cotton, and thus used for the emery and tripoli cuts. The finer cotton is used for finer grade compounds. The combed cotton/linen wheels are the finest grade for super fine and bright polishing ( often called Finex). They are more for soft metals than steel, though. I use them for ivory. Unstitched muslin or cotton are fine for final polish on blades, with the cotton being better for handles.

When polishing blades, start with the black/brown (emery and tripoli) on treated stitched muslin, and then switch to stitched cotton for the green , blue, and white.
For handles sand by hand to 100+ grit and then buff with white or no-scratch pink.

I never was a fan of the sisal wheels, but some hollow grinders swear by them for blending cuts.

BTW, "cut" is a polishing term that refers to the abrasive in the polish "cutting" the metal...which is what it does in polishing. Just like in sanding ,different metals sand better with different papers. The same goes for polishes. The abrasives in polish are blends of metal oxides that can be made to a very fine powder.The powder is carried by a grease/wax matrix. The most common metals are iron, tin-aluminum-magnesium-calcium, chrome, and cobalt (red,white,green,blue).
The white polish compounds can be confusing , as they can be a medium cut (aluminum oxide) to a super-fine cut ( fine tin oxide). Don't just go by color, but test it to see how it polishes. Also, in polish, just like in abrasive papers, you usually get what you pay for. So, the cheap polishes at the discount stores on from some sellers may be made with un-graded ( or poorly graded) compound that has large and small grit jumbled together. These are often sold as "Universal" or "Fast Cut" polish compounds, and will both cut and polish...but don't leave a very shiny surface, because the coarser grit cuts micro-scratches and the finer grit polishes those scratches. For many things this is a real time saver, but it won't work for a mirror polish on a steel blade.

Polish is just like steel - try several types, and when you find the ones that you like....stay with them and learn to perfect their use. Also, get the product from a reliable source where the quality will always be the same. Jumping around for one type to another will lead to a lot of wasted money and frustration....this is very true for both steel and polish

I suggest getting a one pound bar of:
Black emery
Brown tripoli
Green Chrome
Red Rouge
Matchless White or No-scratch pink

Also, get three stitched wheels and three unstitched wheels. Bk,Br, Gr - stitched; Gr,R,W/Pk - unstitched.

Keep the polish and the wheels in Zip-lok bags.

Be aware that polish can go bad...yes it has a shelf life. Some is as short as six months. The grease stick types are good from six months to a year. Most hard blocks are good for a long time. When the carrier breaks down ( or the tallow goes rancid - yuck!), the grit can clump together and make larger scratches.


I probably own twenty or thirty different polishing compounds ( maybe more), but use three or four 99% of the time. I am often tempted to put most the rest in a box for the next "Iron in the Hat' I go to.
 
Thanks again for all the great information! I was under the impression that you couldn't use compounds when using a loose buff, I thought it was more of a final shine wheel that was used by itself...say using a stitched buff for handles and finishing with the loose as a light polish. Dunno why I've been thinking that, lol.
 
I dont have easy access to many of the stropping compounds listed here in the forum. I do however have easy access to the Sears compound as listed by the original posted. I cant see where his original question of, "are these any good?" was answered. Would the Sear's compounds work well for the strop, or should I online order one of the more recommended brands??
 
When polishing blades, start with the black/brown (emery and tripoli) on treated stitched muslin, and then switch to stitched cotton for the green , blue, and white.


I suggest getting a one pound bar of:
Black emery
Brown tripoli
Green Chrome
Red Rouge
Matchless White or No-scratch pink

Also, get three stitched wheels and three unstitched wheels. Bk,Br, Gr - stitched; Gr,R,W/Pk - unstitched.

Seems like a great little lesson to self teach in polishing. Thanks!

How fine of a grit do you clean the blade up on the grinder?

Keep the polish and the wheels in Zip-lok bags.

to avoid cross contamination, of course, great advice.

Do you also clean the blade of the prior compound before moving finer?

Thanks again for this Stacy. I wont tell anybody, but you are a peach! 8^)
 
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