Atienza Kali Blades

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Here are 3 new designs I have made for the Atienza Brothers
We have done extensive tests with blade grind and so on
These are in 0-1 tool steel The run will be made of s3v
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The long one is a 20 inch blade
the middle is 17
the short one is 13
Here is a review of test cutting by the Atienza brothers
Atienza Kali LIVE BLADE TEST

The design of this test is to test a long blades COMBAT ability. Not utility ability. Only for the use of combat.

Feel in the hand and weight distribution is taken into consideration.

30 lb rear pork leg used, bone partially frozen, thick skin still on leg
Dimensions 12” x 9”

blades used- prototypes of first AK live blades.

short sword
blade length-17"
overall 23"

Bowie
blade length-13"
overall-18 3/4"


1st test- thick leather jacket wraped around leg

angle 1 point ready long slash-5 slashes with each blade

Results:
short sword- through leather, through skin 6" deep into flesh

bowie- through leather, through skin 5" deep into flesh

note:80% of the swords we test would not even get completely through the leather

2nd test
Thrusts-

Results-Self explanatory- they all thrusted easily through skin and leather. But so do pens.

3rd test-leather jacket removed
Angle 1 short slash- 2 slashes each blade

Results-Completely through skin flesh and bone

4th test- with most of the meat cut into smaller 5”chunks, they were hung up and slashed with variety of attack angles
Angle 1 and angle2 short and long slashes, circular slashes, chops hacks and thrust. All delivered at a medium cadence.

Note: the sudden changed in angle of the slashes together with chops and hacks (because we don’t have the draw of the blade on the target of the point ready slash) put a lot force on a small part of the edge, especially when going into bone.Most swords that we’ve tested fail at this portion of the test. Very deep chips come out of the edge (sometimes an 1” deep) and/or the blade would bend, the edge would bend or the blade would sometimes break completely

Results:
Short sword- very minor chips in the edge, digital camera could hardly pick it up

Bowie- very small chips in the blade, 1/64th or 1/32nd of an inch from the edge. VERY ACCETABLE.

Last test, edge retainment-

Edge test cut into paper-


Results-Still cut paper very easily

These blades worked very well. They feel very good in the hand (very important) and they function better than any other long blade that we've owned. Finally they are the designs that we wanted to see in a long blade, designs that we've had for over 20 years.

Justin Garvey did a great job on very short notice for these prototypes. Four days he delivered these blades.

Carl and Justin have already talked about the results. Next is s30v long blades.
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The Atienza Brothers
Chief Instructors Atienza Kali

Thanks for looking
Justin Garvey
 
Sweet blades! We live in the same city do you sell knives locally? Also is there a local Atienza kali training group?
 
Mark,
Yes I do sell knives,I have a small kerambit and fixed blade design i will make a run in soon, the kerambit is going through some changes.We have a Sayoc training group here which is under Guro Harley Elmore, we also train in the Atienza material I make aluminum trainers which match all live blades same handle and so on.. I have your e-mail so I will send the specifics as to where and when.We train 3 days a week.
Justin Garvey
 
Justin,

That is nice work! Please post some pics of your Kerambit's mentioned above if possible!

Thanks
Chris
 
When you say the production will be in s3v, did you really mean 3V, or did you mean S30V? 3V would be a nice choice for these.

Joe
 
I've gotten to a chance to check out these blades and they are highly recommended!

--Rafael--
Sayoc Kali
 
Tuhon,
Thank you very much,there will be small changes with the handles.All of these designs along with any small blades are put into trainers and trained with to see how they feel during application.When I went to long Beach with the new trainers that are replicas of the live blade,I decided that if these swords were used for any amount of time I would need to refine certian aspects of the handle.Anyway,the offical run will have gone through extensive hands on testing and refinement.Nothing but the best for our family.

Joe,
Yes, 3v is the steel that the offical run will be made in these will certianly be formidable weapons.Not to diminish the strengths of 0-1 because the 0-1 swords I made have been great.
Justin Garvey
Tushka-Homma Weaponry
 
Chris,
I am cutting out the refined version of the kerambit, I have not put them out yet because I wanted to make small changes.material thickness and grinds will be different.
Mr. Maniotes I have not forgotten about you , these new ones will be better.
Justin
 
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