Authentic USMC Mameluke

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This is just a few pictures of my grandpa's USMC Mameluke Officer sword. This is NOT a cold steel or other manufacturer sword.

NOT FOR SALE OR TRADE!!! :mad::mad::mad:




(Sorry for some of the bluryness on some of the pictures, i'm kinda new to taking pictures) I would like to see yours if anyone else has one.


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Out of curiosity......What is is that makes this an Authentic Mameluke? Besides the age of the blade. Were they made by one specific company? Does anyone still produce them, besides Coldsteel?
Thanks, Kevin
 
There are a fair number of 20th century USMC mameluke swords out there and the current major importer Marlow White sells the WKC goods.
www.militarysabers.com/wkc-sword-history.html

Others making the official pattern are Windlass from India and I believe it is MArto that brokers the official U.S. military swords made in Spain.

It has been awhile since I looked at this site but they used to make the U.S. patterns
http://www.chevalierdauvergne.com/

The Ames sword Company can and sell this pattern as well but they source the blades themselves from Windlass or another India factory.
www.amessword.com/

Keep in mind that the Cold Steel offerings are not official or approved U.S. military patterns and will not meet guidelines for uniform use.
www.amessword.com/

There are a good many post WWII USMC mameluke swords out there. All will be somewhat similar to the one we see above. Pre WWII swords with a solid provenance and officer's records will reach a premium but unless we are looking at one of the very early 19th century mamelukes, or premium swords late in the 19th century, they are not terribly expensive in the grand scheme of things. The Msrine' nco sabers that were a crry over of the American Civil War era officer's swords that had supplanted the mameluke for officers during the 1850s and the mameluke re-instated later in the century.

A search term in your favorite search engine might include the words "usmc sword history"

There used to be several German makers such as Horster and Eickhorn. There were American retailers such as Zubco that sourced worldwide, including Japan and iirc Thailand.

While the initial 1827 contract of the USMC mamelukes was indeed from England, few were being made in England for the American market after the turn of the 20th century.

There is one of many neat articles on the early swords here.
http://asoac.org/bulletins/93_bcureton_marine.pdf

Cheers

GC
 
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Solingen is the German company that makes them I believe....they bought the the tooling from Wilkinson Swords when they closed shop.

Solingen is a city. ;)

WKC aka Wyersburg Kirschbaum &C did buy up Wilkinson tooling but Wilkinson was not the only supplier for these swords
www.wkc-solingen.de/newshop/index.html
www.wkc-solingen.de/newshop/wkcguide.html

WKC was the merge of two cutlery families going back some centuries. The merge was n the 1880s, The crowned king mark is for Wyersburg, the armored knight shown as a bust is for Kirschbaum, Wyersburg bought the crowned king mark from Wundes in the 1780s. Wundes, a family that goes back even further than the 18th century on.

As posted, a little searching about will result in way more than can be posted up in a single thread.

There should be some maker information on the blade up inder those langets covering the base of the blade. Yes, many of the German makers did work in Solingen. Many marking blades were nothing but middlemen and agents for export, The number, which will appear o later swords is not a serial numer but rather an acceptance reference.

Cheers

GC
 
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