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BAD- Received Rocks vice Rockstead

Discussion in 'FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly!' started by EurAzn12, Jul 31, 2019.

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  1. JJ_Colt45

    JJ_Colt45 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 11, 2014
    There is absolutely nothing obvious in this situation ... if there were this thread would not be here ...

    We would all like to believe that neither of our fellow members is lying or pulling a prank ...

    But there have been so many that make a post then turn around and argue against the post they made earlier ... I hope it gets resolved so both are good ...

    But sadly there is not an obvious account for any of it ... nor an obvious solution that is easy.

    And welcome to the forums ... reading alot more and knowing the forum and members better before jumping on anyone may be a good idea ...

    Most members will go out of their way to be helpful.
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  2. Lone_Wolfe

    Lone_Wolfe Dazed and Confused Platinum Member

    May 3, 2011
    You may as well put me on your no fly list, because I find it 'moronic' to waste a perfectly good box instead of re-using it. I apply one criteria when I'm deciding whether a box is past it's useful life. I ask myself if I'd want someone else to pack my knife in it, If the answer isn't a clear Yes, the box goes in the trash. I also tape every corner, pulling the tape very snug.
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  3. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    They were just rhetorical questions, I wasn’t expecting that you could provide the answers. I think any of the possible explanations offered could be true, including it being a prank. I don’t think we will ever know the answer and I doubt we will get any new information from the buyer or seller.
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  4. Blues Bender

    Blues Bender Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 27, 2014
    My buddy just told me about this sweet deal going on.

    Genuine Rockstead for $6.99

  5. JJ_Colt45

    JJ_Colt45 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 11, 2014
  6. Lone_Wolfe

    Lone_Wolfe Dazed and Confused Platinum Member

    May 3, 2011
    Nope, you're absolutely not the only one to do it. And you pack like I do, hoping the recipient already has a knife!
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  7. JD Mandrell

    JD Mandrell Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 20, 2001
    Same here, I reuse flat rate boxes all the time, but I tape the living s**t out of them. :)
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  8. PeteyTwoPointOne

    PeteyTwoPointOne Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jun 10, 2014

    it's unfathomable to me that anyone would take issue with:

    new Priority Mail mailer > used Priority Mail mailer

    The seller could have tamped down some of the suspicion that the package may have been tampered with by a third party if he/she'd used a new mailer.

    It's a fact that that has been one point of contention IN THIS THREAD.

    If a box arrives at my house already sliced and diced...who done it? The seller, or a dishonest mail handler, or the guy who shipped the box previously to the original seller, or the guy before that because he repurposes free Priority boxes, too.

    OTOH, if a box arrives at my house without any previous damage in a new mailer and it has a bundle of rocks in it, I'd say the job of figuring out who's at fault has gotten easier to discern by several degrees.
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  9. annr

    annr Basic Member Basic Member

    Nov 15, 2006
    I was thinking the same thing: if it were a crook, they could simply carry pre-weighed baggies (in 1 oz. or even 1/2 oz. increments?) with gravel and small rocks. When the right size package and $$ amount appear and circumstances are right, presto...
  10. Lapedog


    Dec 7, 2016
    Or just a scale in the mail van. Rocks are pretty accessible.
  11. Peter Hartwig

    Peter Hartwig Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    if they even bother past a guestimate.
  12. Lapedog


    Dec 7, 2016
    I’m not aware of their internal processes or how often they check the weight. Also how much it matters how accurate the weight is if they do measure it each time.

    No one knows what happened but I imagine a crooked postal worker would know how to cover his tracks to some degree.
  13. Peter Hartwig

    Peter Hartwig Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    As far as I know it is just the once, and I can't see a reason to weigh it more after the weight is in the system-other than theft. It has been brought up before and no one with the knowledge has commented as far as I am aware. Any USPS out there for a comment.
    I believe what most are talking about with the weight is to weigh what was received and compare it to the initial mailed weight
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  14. Andy the Aussie

    Andy the Aussie Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 29, 2010
    ....... "vice" also has another meaning other than the one you are all going to. It can also mean as a replacement or substitute for. In some organisations (my own included) it is often used to reflect a person doing a role that is someone else's ie.... "Smith OIC Team 2 vice Jones". English is an intriguing language... :D

    EDIT....I see this was unpacked before I posted.... ;) :D apologies for be Captain Obvious....or in this case Captain Andy vice Obvious.
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2019
  15. benchwarmer380

    benchwarmer380 Valyrian Member Platinum Member

    Sep 17, 2012

    I don't think anyone would take issue nor disagree with you if you were to say that a new Priority box is greater/better than used. Yet you didn't quite say that.

    I believe they took issue because you essentially called those that do repurpose, moronic.

    At least a few here, myself included, believe that to be a non-issue so long as the box is still in good condition. YMMV
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  16. stonesell

    stonesell Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 20, 2009
    An experienced postal thief may even have a lunch box with a hidden compartment, containing the pre weighed baggies of rocks, a roll of clear packaging tape, a portable digital scale, and a small (previously stolen) pocket knife to slit the tape. There may even be enough hidden space left over to conceal whatever plunder the days work yielded.
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  17. JJ_Colt45

    JJ_Colt45 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 11, 2014

    Have you ever heard of recycling? ... or used parts? ...

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with reusing a box unless it has been damaged already ...

    And if you wrap and pack the knife correctly ... and then tape and double tape every seem ... the knife is just as safe as a new box ...

    Now if the box is beat to hell or torn up ... then I could see not reusing it ... but if it's still in good condition (which if they were packed right and full they would be 99% of the time) ... there is no need or reason to waste it ...
  18. PeteyTwoPointOne

    PeteyTwoPointOne Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jun 10, 2014

    but if I'd sold the guy a knife and he posted up a film online showing a box that already had a cut in the end BEFORE he opened it...I'd want to be damned sure IN MY OWN MIND that the only way the slit got there was somehow after it left my custody.

    That way I could be way more emphatic in my own defense on that point of contention.

    Kinda puts yourself behind the 8-ball when right out the gate you gotta concede that you shipped in a janky mailer.

    Even if he knows in his own mind he didn't do any double dealing-- he's come here to plead his case amidst a lot of skeptical bastids...good luck with that!
  19. PeteyTwoPointOne

    PeteyTwoPointOne Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jun 10, 2014
    And I say there's no reason not to ship in a new box.

    Have you read this thread?

    If you had you might be able to understand why I contend it would have been better to ship in a new mailer especially since they're free and easy to get.

    There's posts throughout discussing the cut in the end of the box before the buyer opened it goddamn it.
  20. JJ_Colt45

    JJ_Colt45 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 11, 2014
    This thread has no bearing on how I or the other forum members ... (who are all in good standing and well respected) ... ship with a reused box if it's in good condition ...

    A few say they see tape was already cut etc ... but others see something different ... you have your opinion ... others have theirs ... where you stepped in it was mocking anyone who didn't agree with you.

    You just want to argue because you attacked members that don't share your point of view.
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