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BAD- Received Rocks vice Rockstead

Discussion in 'FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly!' started by EurAzn12, Jul 31, 2019.

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  1. Lone_Wolfe

    Lone_Wolfe Dazed and Confused Platinum Member

    May 3, 2011
    Better still, can you post a pic or a video of the package?
     
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  2. EurAzn12

    EurAzn12 KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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    Oct 9, 2016
    I have uploaded the video unboxing in the original post
     
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  3. JJ_Colt45

    JJ_Colt45 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 11, 2014
    Where is the video uploaded to?
     
  4. Elgatodeacero

    Elgatodeacero Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 5, 2014
    Oh man, this is gonna be a saga. That is a depressing video.

    It never occurred to me to video opening a package.

    I suppose it is possible a third party took knife and replaced with rocks?

    I am withholding final judgment, but Act 1 does not look good for seller.
     
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  5. Sleeper80

    Sleeper80

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    Apr 6, 2017
    The seller said he taped the box...if someone removed the tape, there would be damage to the box, no matter how careful they were. Nobody hijacked this package or replaced the contents. Seller is a thief. Lowest of the low.
     
  6. Lotmom

    Lotmom Gold Member Gold Member

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    Apr 21, 2016
    I Really hope that @luh1202 is not responsible for this.

    Imagine how terrible it would be for bladeforums if a user scammed another for over $800. Are rocksteads serialed?
     
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  7. Lotmom

    Lotmom Gold Member Gold Member

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    Apr 21, 2016
    I hate to agree with this, but I see no damage. The only other option is that @EurAzn12 is lying? I highly doubt that though as I see no cuts in the video.
    This is looking real bad for luh1202...

    the weird part is that they both have good records?
     
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  8. WValtakis

    WValtakis Hand Engraving, Anodizing and Embellishment Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 29, 2004
    That's why I don't use just clear tape...someone could easily slit the tape, open and reseal with clear tape and it would be very difficult to tell. Even some blue masking tape under the clear provides some indication of tampering.
     
  9. Sleeper80

    Sleeper80

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    Apr 6, 2017
    EurAzyn12 is a pretty well known trader. I’ve had dozens of deals with him, in addition to sending him tens of thousands dollars in knives for service. I hate to throw personal stuff in there, but I believe he’s a officer in the Marine Corp.
     
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  10. JJ_Colt45

    JJ_Colt45 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 11, 2014
    I may be a minority here ... but the video seems hokey ... it could be the seller is a grade A thief ... but something off about video taping unpacking it and already the buyer stating he had a pit in his stomach ...

    And the reaction seemed off to me ... I'd be way more pissed ... but this is why if selling it buying from an unknown person I request signature confirmation ... and I MAKE MY MAILMAN WATCH ME OPEN THE PACKAGE ...

    I can't call it or know for sure but somebody really crossed lines here.
     
  11. JJ_Colt45

    JJ_Colt45 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 11, 2014
    Doesn't matter what tape you use if it is cut and opened you could tell ... no way to match if back up perfectly ...

    A crappy situation all around ... I hate this ... everytime I start to list knives a thread like this pops up and it makes me just put the knives away and forget selling them.
     
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  12. steelnut

    steelnut Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 9, 2007
    Seller should already be on the phone with the postal inspector, postmaster, and local PD
     
  13. luh1202

    luh1202

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    Jun 25, 2017
    You can just cut the tape open and reseal it. Nothing hard to do to open the box without damage it. I reuse the box myself.
     
  14. luh1202

    luh1202

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    Jun 25, 2017
    Me? I can't, I didn't go pro myself all the way from packaging the knife to post office at one take. I guess this is what I have to do now if I ever ship a knife to someone else in the future.
     
  15. WValtakis

    WValtakis Hand Engraving, Anodizing and Embellishment Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 29, 2004
    Yup, and I swear it looks like there is already a slit in the tape when the knife is held vertically to slit the tape on the tab.
     
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  16. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    I don't have a dog in this fight but I know that the seller will lose the claim and that the buyer will be be compensated by PP. For someone to send a Rocksinstead as opposed to a Rockstead is an evil and insidious act as much as it is for someone to replace a Rockstead with Rocksinstead. No doubt that the seller will be in much more pain if at the end of this saga there's no knife, no money for the knife plus tattered reputation. The buyer will suffer some but undoubtedly less.

    I have reviewed the buying and selling of both parties (the buyer's feedback are more as a buyer and the seller's kinda equal amounts) and from what I see, they have both dabbled in knives worth several hundred$ before (this is one instance where I really wish that BF.com ought to insist on selling prices to be left in the ads) therefore I see no immediately suspicious pattern of behavior in someone selling or buying in much lower pricing bracket.

    This is one case for the USPS Postal Inspector because there's fraud and / or theft and the culprit will be in a world of hurt if they go to the trouble of obtaining finger prints and all those extra steps.
     
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  17. PirateSeulb

    PirateSeulb Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 6, 2017
    Now that both sides are here I have to get my popcorn ready
     
  18. steelnut

    steelnut Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 9, 2007
    That's a postal workers lunch baggie and rocks from parking lot...
     
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  19. Boru13

    Boru13 Super Moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Apr 25, 2000
    Thread temporarily closed... there's a few things about this situation that just aren't adding up for me.
     
  20. Boru13

    Boru13 Super Moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Apr 25, 2000
    Threads open.
     
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