Belt Buckle with covert hand cuff key

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pyroism

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Hey all,

I'm new to these forums, a friend told me about them.
I found on ebay, a seemingly normal belt buckle that has a hand cuff key as the arm of the belt (the part that goes through the leather belt).
It's the coolelst "gaget" or such that I've found with a hidden hand cuff key (hey you never know when you'll need a hand cuff key or two ;-) )
 
If the key is the part that goes through the hole in the belt, what keeps your pants from falling down when you use it?

You can get a handcuff key hidden in a belt keeper at any gunshop. (A keeper is a little strap that keeps the excess length of the belt from flopping around.) Maybe the tongue of the belt will flop around when you take it off to use the key ... better than your pants falling down.
 
Keep in mind police will give you extra special attention if they find you with a cuff key. This item is being shown on several police boards I frequent. If you have a key, keep it and its wearabouts to yourself.
 
Nah, it's easily usable without taking the belt off or having my pants fall down.

Yeah, I could imagine that it would piss off a police officer to find the person he just hand cuffed to have taken the cuffs off. ;-)
 
Yeah, that would be REALL FUNNY when that officer focibly puts the cuffs on again and then books you into your local jail for investigation of escape.

Then for the REST OF YOUR LIFE all law enforcement officers that deal with you will see "CARRIES CUFF KEY" and "ESCAPE" and "2 PERSON DETAIL" on your "name" screen, in the big-ass database that all agencies have and share with other agencies.

Simply getting pulled over for speeding will be more a dramatic experience for you once an officer finds a cuff key on a suspect.

Be smart about this.
 
as long as no one finds it i can see it being handy. after all, you never know when your girlfriend might handcuff you to the bed and walk away :D :eek: :D . If i was in a situation where i was handcuffed by the police and they knew who i was i wouldn't use it even if i had it on me. but still, i don't think it would get you in as much trouble as if you had a belt buckle with a knife concealed in it. :eek: i could see using it if i was in some sort of a hostage situation and was handcuffed by the "bad guys". then again maybe i watch too many movies. :D

Pete
 
yeah, exactly. you never know when you'll need it.
I don't anticipate getting arrested, or even using it if I did.
It's just a cool "gadget" i've come accross...
 
Originally posted by pjenkins00
after all, you never know when your girlfriend might handcuff you to the bed and walk away :D :eek: :D .

Pete
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Why would you still have your belt? :confused:



Shaun
 
The belt buckle is a good place for a handcuff key, if you wear the buckle in back where your hands will be when you are cuffed.:rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by GlockDoc
The belt buckle is a good place for a handcuff key, if you wear the buckle in back where your hands will be when you are cuffed.:rolleyes:
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I was wondering about this part myself. :D Sitting here in my chair with my wrists together, trying to see if I can reach my belt buckle. It's not easy, anyway.
 
Originally posted by Shag633
Why would you still have your belt? :confused:



Shaun
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I dunno, maybe it was within reach.



Originally posted by KnifeySpoony
I was wondering about this part myself. :D Sitting here in my chair with my wrists together, trying to see if I can reach my belt buckle. It's not easy, anyway.
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it's not too hard to bring your hands underneath your legs and get the cuffs in the front. i think it might be possible without doing that, but it would certainly make it easier.

Pete
 
These are not uncommon and were/are designed for and used by magicians and escape artists. A cop doing a competent search should turn this up pretty easily and under the "wrong" circumstances could probably file a "criminal tools" type charge. I also have to think that it would require a fair amount of contortions to use and would probably be noticed pretty quick, again assuming a competent officer.

I would sure like to have one for the heck of it, however picking cuffs just isnt that hard to begin with. Probably not something to discuss on an open public forum .

Bill
 
If you're cuffed the right way you won't be able to reach the keyhole.
 
what's the right way to cuff someone anyways? i can see with the cuffs that are actually attached together (i.e. no chain) that it could be quite difficult but i have to say i'm not familiar with the nuances of cuffing people.

Pete
 
Generally, arms behind the back, palms out, handcuff key holes up.

In the heat of rasslin' with someone, you get em' on as you can....

There are a variety of extra-secure "transport" devices available, including a heavy, padlocked shield that goes over the cuffs, cuffs with "shunt-key" type locks, and so forth.
Standard cuffs are meant for emergency use, and are not particularly difficult to pick or manipulate. Hence, any copper worth his paycheck will watch you like a hawk even though you're cuffed. I do, anyway...
We had a local officer killed a few years back by a guy with a "trick" hand. Guy had a congenital defect, was short a finger. As a result, he could slip out of cuffs, and he grabbed the transporting officer's gun. Could have been prevented by a simple tactical technique I still use.
 
KnifeySpoony said:
I was wondering about this part myself. :D Sitting here in my chair with my wrists together, trying to see if I can reach my belt buckle. It's not easy, anyway.
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why not just get a bracelet that has a handcuff key hidden in it. I've already found a few on google.
 
Or a ring..... or you could study up on any of the dozens of improvised tools, keys, and methods used by prisoners over the years to remove handcuffs. They are all known to us; we get regular training bulletins and "officer safety" bulletins on all of 'em.

Cuffs are not considered a secure restraint system. They are a field expedient and no officer worth his pay would rely on them to keep a prisoner secure. That's why we use cage cars and such for transport.
For more serious transport, there are varieties of high-security restraint systems that incorporate much more secure locking systems.
 
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Angus McGunnigl said:
Yeah, that would be REALL FUNNY when that officer focibly puts the cuffs on again and then books you into your local jail for investigation of escape.

Then for the REST OF YOUR LIFE all law enforcement officers that deal with you will see "CARRIES CUFF KEY" and "ESCAPE" and "2 PERSON DETAIL" on your "name" screen, in the big-ass database that all agencies have and share with other agencies.

Simply getting pulled over for speeding will be more a dramatic experience for you once an officer finds a cuff key on a suspect.

Be smart about this.
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Be smart about this, I don't think the only people that can use handcuffs are police. I wouldn't make the assumption that he was talking about police either from the first post. Someone who is a criminal home invader could very well use handcuffs to detain people. Not to mention any other situation you can think of where you get handcuffed against your will by whoever wherever and you've done nothing wrong, maybe you are a victim. Albeit a rare situation, that is how I would see the reasoning behind a law abiding citizen having a handcuff key. To each his own.
 
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