Question..anyone ever use and have a review for the BM mini barrage, also is the blade on this knife to thin and brittle..or is it a beefy blade..
Here's a review that I did in November 2009. Since then, I have given the 585 to my girl friend, and I am using the Caly 3 for office EDC. The 585 blade is not thin and brittle.
1st Impressions: BM Mini Barrage 585 vs. Spyderco Caly 3
Just received a Caly 3 G10 today, and its my first Spyderco knife. Been carrying the BM 585 for several weeks, and I have three other BM knives, one folder, two fixed. First impressions:
Caly 3 is slightly lighter, thinner (flatter with or without the clip), has a low-ride clip, and its slightly wider, so, for me, it carries a bit better clipped to a pocket or loose in the pocket, which is the primary reason I bought it. I prefer the BM catalogue because it specifies the thickness of their knives, which is a key specification.
The Caly 3 handle not quite as hand filling as the 585 handle, but probably good enough for my intended purpose, low profile EDC, opening packages, preparing food. However, the choil for my index finger is very close to a very sharp blade. I really like the Caly 3 jimping though.
Published specs for length of both knives are correct. Both blades are roughly 3 and both handles are roughly 4. The blade on the Caly 3 is about 1/10 longer and the cutting edge is about 1/10 shorter, so the blade length is a wash.
The observable machined surfaces of the Caly 3 are slightly better (smoother), giving the impression of a slightly better finished knife. The G10 scales of the Caly 3 also give the impression of slightly higher quality than the molded plastic scales on the 585, but I have no complaints about the 585 scales. At street price, the Caly 3 is a more expensive knife.
The Spyder hole seems to work as least as well as BM thumb studs, and the Caly 3 deploys about as well as a knife with an unassisted BM Axis lock. Out of the box, the Caly 3 mechanism seems to be a bit rougher than the BM 585, but it works well enough. I am comfortable with the Caly 3 back lock.
585 problems:
1. Delivered with a blade that was loose side to side. Adjusted the pivot screw twice, but it came loose within a day or two. Two emails to Benchmade asking whether to Locktite the pivot screw or return the knife have gone unanswered, leaving a very poor impression of BM customer service. If I keep this knife, I will probably Locktite the pivot screw. So far, the Caly 3 doesnt have this problem and neither does my BM Mini Rukus.
For now, Ive tightened the pivot screw and taped it down, and the pivot screw hasnt come loose in a week. After tightening the pivot screw, I noticed a slight amount of vertical play in the blade thats not present in the Mini Rukus.
2. Out of the box, the BM 585 was not very sharp, but good enough to open packages and slice apples, so I havent sharpened it yet. By comparison, the Mini Rukus was sharp, and the Caly 3 is VERY sharp. Of my two BM fixed knives, one was sharp (201), one wasnt (Nim Cub II).
These are minor problems that can be fixed, and I can always phone Benchmade customer service if they dont respond to email sent to BM Customer Service. However, it shouldnt be necessary, and I will think twice before mail ordering another BM knife.
The assisted opening on the 585 works very well. However, I am not that enamored with assisted opening, and I have tightened the pivot screw, so that the blade opens with only slightly more enthusiasm than a standard Axis lock and the blade has no side-to-side play. The assisted opening blade still pops up like fresh toast, which makes me wonder whether its abusing the locking mechanism, so I tend to ease it open. The complexity and long-term reliability of the assisted opening mechanism and blade lock concerns me too, but it does seem to work well.
Concerns about the Caly 3:
1. Scales are riveted to the liners, so they cant be removed for cleaning if the knife gets dunked in salt water.
2. I have heard that the Caly 3 pivot is a bushing-less design, so I am wondering whether this might become a problem down the road.
One balance, I think they are both good knives with similar uses. I plan to use both knives for a while and keep the one that works the best for me, and I will update this post if my impressions change. So far, the Caly 3 seems to be the likely keeper.