Benchmade Proper

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Was browsing around on the Benchmade site tonight and saw this knife. I had not heard about it.

The Proper is a gentleman's slipjoint folder. Its use of modern materials with time-tested mechanisms and a classic design make it a knife to have with you at all times.

No pocket clip, Micarta or G10 handles and a slipjoint with modern S30V steel.

Something to look forward too.

,,,Mike in Canada
 
Interesting. Specs look good but I would much prefer a thin full flat grind.

A simple yet modern take on a classic gentleman's knife.

Designer: Benchmade
Mechanism: Slip-joint
Action: Manual-opening
Blade Steel: CPM-S30V (58-60 HRC)
Blade Length: 2.86" (7.26cm)
Blade Thickness: 0.090" (2.286mm)
Open Length: 6.69" (16.99cm)
Closed Length: 3.85" (9.78cm)
Handle Thickness: 0.40" (10.16mm)
Weight: 2.32oz. (66.00g)

Blade Edge Plain
Blade Finish/Color Satin
Blade Style/Shape Sheepsfoot
Clip Type No Clip
Clip Position N/A
Glass Breaker No
Handle Material G10
Lanyard Hole Yes
MOLLE Compatible No
Sheath Type No Sheath
Use Every Day

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I kind of like it. It seems like a good blend of modern and traditional design features. Screws often look weird on traditional patterns, but this is different enough that it doesn't bother me. I would have preferred to see a full height grind, although that isn't too big of a deal. Looking forward to seeing some more pictures when it gets released. Hopefully they will offer it with a clip or drop point blade in the future also.
 
I don't dislike it. The brown Micarta looks good. I agree that the nail nick looks odd. I rarely carry modern knives anymore, but before I really got into traditionals, I carried the same dark green handled 940 almost every day for something like 12 years, so I do have a soft spot in my heart for Benchmade. :rolleyes:
 
That's just hideous. Doesn't even look remotely traditional either.


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That's just hideous. Doesn't even look remotely traditional either.


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That's a slipjoint all right. Question is...is it traditional?



meh, seems soulless to me.

Different strokes for different folks.

I don't like it much, it's only partly traditional in my opinion, but I think the pictures with the stark white background are such a staple of modern and hi-tech consumer items that is makes it look sterile and not traditional. Imagine the brown micarta against a leather saddle or the red one in leaf litter. It would still have torx instead of pins, but would far less offensive ;)

Anyway, I bet this knife draws a few benchmade fans to the porch, where they are likely to stay a while.

Cheers.
 
I like the modified wharncliff blade, the swedge and the jimping. CPM-S30V is a pretty nice steel. And it's got the lanyard hole folks seem to like. Not a bad effort.
 
Interesting. It might appeal to the folks who have been looking for a slipjoint with higher end steel.

As far as whether or not it qualifies as a traditional, to me it seems to blend modern and traditional elements, but here are some things to consider:

Cold Steel's Ranch Boss uses S35VN, Case uses some 154CM, and A.G. Russell has a trapper with VG10. Then there are the custom makers who do traditional patterns, but with higher-end steels. The modified sheepfoot blade shape has been used before and, on the few knives I have had with it, has worked very well.
The nail nick is different, but the placement looks like it is good

Micarta and other synthetic materials have been used for handles for quite some time now, so although it isn't a natural material like a lot of traditionals, it is nothing new. Case has their yellow delrin and also uses black G-10, and their kirinite is also a synthetic material. A.G. Russell has used rucarta, which I think is essentially the same thing as micarta, for a long time.

The fasteners are different from the common riveted approach, but have been used on other traditionals and are something that some folks have been hoping would happen. They should do a good job of holding the knife together.

The blade grind is not different than that used on my Camillus Stockman and my Queen Folding Hunter. I prefer a full flat grind, but that isn't a requirement for a traditional folder.

Regardless, it is an interesting concept, kind of like the round-head barlow that seems to be drawing a lot of positive attention.
 
I know a line has to be drawn somewhere, but why are all slipjoints automatically considered traditional? For example I have a lockback that I think should be considered traditional, but isn't. Construction is done with pins. Material is traditional, with steel construction and jigged bone covers. But it is disqualified because it has two modern design elements -- a clip and a thumbstud. But the clip is so small and tight, it won't work even on the thinnest pair of summer slacks I own. And this being in the gent's knife class size, the thumbstud is pretty ineffective for one hand opening. It's just an alternative method of opening compared to the nail nick.

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Perhaps it's superficial, but shouldn't looks and construction method be taken into account? Shouldn't a knife pass the eye test as well to be considered traditional? From where I'm standing the knife posted above is more traditional than the one in the OP, but only the Benchmade qualifies for this forum.
 
I think it's definitely subjective and before we get too snobbish about "our traditionals" we should be pretty broad minded. A clip isn't allowed but a clipped pocket sheath is. A one armed Barlow is but a stud or blade hole isn't. It's deep rabbit hole.
 
Personally I think that there are far too few modern material production slip joints. Might be because of the jurisdiction of my area that I like them.
This one looks okay, but the price probably won't be and benchmade has declined quite a lot over the past 2 years in quality etc... But that is just me. Still leagues better than that hinderer abomination.

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I'm interested in the micarta, might have to get it re-ground though..

hope they do a clip point version.
 
The basic handle shape is similar to knives posted recently by brancron (quoted below). It seems to be what a lot of companies think is traditional. Someone should send these companies a copy of Levine's guide and antique catalogs. ;)

In my opinion, it would be much more interesting to mix an actual old pattern with the best features of modern knives... like open back screw and pillar construction and axis lock, for example. Keep the grinds, handle shape and size of the old knife but use modern construction and materials.

For this reason, I think the Proper is a missed opportunity. But it's good to see more traditional knives made in the USA.



 
Personally I like it. Sure it doesn't use traditional materials or is it based on an old pattern, but I still like it. I think the target audience is people that want a modern folder, but by law are relegated to a slipjoint.

kamagong - that Moki/WH is a sweet knife, but the rules of the forum clearly state no one-hand opening or clips. It can be kind of murky when you look at a Buck 110 with a 1-arm bandit on it, or the blade hole of a Scagel folder. That said your knife, while very nice (and I wished I'd grabbed one), is not.
 
The Spire does fail the test of what makes a traditional knife. My contention is that the test, as currently administered, is incomplete as it should also take into account materials and method of construction. Because IMO while the Proper is a slipjoint, it is not traditional.
 
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