best edge holding pocket knife

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Hello I am new to the site and looking for a great pocket knife that holds an edge I have had all kinds of knifes.I baught a sog trident what a piece of junk one of the worst I have ever owned it seems like it gets dull over night I really hate this knife.I have had cold steel they seem to hold an edge.A few bokers.They are ok .colt m-16-k cool knife but I want one that will hold a edge.I use my knife pretty much every day.But I am rough on a knife very rough.I can be cleaning game to scraping aluminum to cutting bait and so on.Any help would be great. Thankyou Matt
 
Get a Chris Reeve Sebenza. I know it's expensive but, buying all those run-of-the-mill knives will end up costing you more than if you had purchased the cadillac in the first place. If you subsequently desire to purchase other knives then fine, but you will have a benchmark for comparisons.
 
Try the Spyderco Native. It's available at most Wal-Marts for forty bucks. Premium blade steel (same blade steel as the aforementioned Sebenza in fact), thin factory edge bevels, good handle ergos, warranty, etc. Very handy knife. I think you'll find it's edge holding properties superior to what you've been using. Probably by leaps and bounds. :)
 
Scraping aluminium will dull any knife in short time. May I remind you that diamond machining tools were introduced as cost-effective way of machining aluminium?

However if you are after edge holding, you can either try Fallkniven U2 (SGPS steel @ 64HRC) (around $50) or Spyderco ZDP-189 Delica ($80).

If you are rough to your folders then maybe something like Byrd Cara-Cara ($20) could come into consideration as well - one tough folder and if need to replace it occurs it won't cost you an arm and leg.

I also suggest you to check out Spyderco Manix, Paramilitary and Military (all are S30V) and BM710 (D2) and Gravitator (154CM)

Providing info how much you want to spend would be very useful :thumbup: but all of aforementioned (in my post) knives are under $120
 
Thankyou for all the ideas.It doesn't really matter how much within reason I ust want it to hold the best possible edge.Thankyou Matt
 
If you're looking for cheap sturdy knives, try Buck. Their 420HC is not the best but it resharpens easily, holds a razor edge. I have several Buck knives and I use the Mantis very often.
 
Find a knife buy a reputable manufacturerer in M2,D2,S30V,ZDP189,SGPS,etc. I am willing to bet any of these will hold an edge better than anything you have ever used. Not exactly in the same league but I have been carrying my Endura 4 here lately and have been very happy with Spyderco's VG10 edge holding. To me it has the best ease of sharpening to edge holding ration of any stainless. This latest Endura is also a very tough knife. A BM D2 710 might also be up your alley, they don't get much tougher and the D2 really shines in edge holding.
 
Mmmmh, from what you say it seems to me that you rather need a good sharpener than another knife. I don't know what kind of edge holding you expect, but if you scrape aluminum or even cut yards of cardboard any knife will dull within a short amount of time. But yes for someone like you, D2, S30V or something hard like SGPS or ZDP-189 seems to be the ticket.
 
For 100 bucks (1/4 the price of a Sebenza) you could get a Spyderco Manix to beat the heck out of.

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HoB said:
Mmmmh, from what you say it seems to me that you rather need a good sharpener than another knife. I don't know what kind of edge holding you expect, but if you scrape aluminum or even cut yards of cardboard any knife will dull within a short amount of time. But yes for someone like you, D2, S30V or something hard like SGPS or ZDP-189 seems to be the ticket.
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I know how to sharpen a knife. I was simply asking who makes a good edge holding knife.I have a sog and it sucks the worst knife I have ever owned.I would also like to thank everyone for there replys in giving me some to try Thankyou for all your help. Thankyou Matt
 
That just goes to show you how different people feel about knives. I have 6 SOG knives and love everyone as far as I can tell they all hold an edge and are easy to sharpen.
 
The one i have is a Sog Trident Is a real piece of junk.I have never been so unhappy with a knife.I am going to try a benchmade with D2 blade.
 
My C95 Spyderco Manix holds it's edge longer than any knife I own. At right around $100 it's not too expensive to beat up in use.
 
My Queen's with D2 blades are a little hard to get really sharp, but hold an edge very long. I use my two-blade Congress to shave / trim aluminum, and it is just ridiculous how long the edge holds up to that.
 
Another vote for the Spyderco Manix. It's a tough knife and has a good steel blade, (S30V). It also has a lanyard hole, If you're cutting bait on the boat you might want to use a lanyard.
 
Sorry, noflyrule, I meant no offense. Occasionally some people visit this forum seeking essentially a Ginsu 2000 knife - one that never dulls because they don't know how to sharpen a knife and don't want to learn how to, thinking that modern metallugy can provide such a thing. The trident has AFAIK an AUS-8 blade. Assuming that it has a decent heattreat, it should be a perfectly acceptable bladesteel, meaning, while you are likely to see some improvements going to S30V or D2, the improvements in edgeholding may not be mind blowing. I just hope you are not going to be disappointed. Even the "supersteels" are easily dulled with a few swipes over very hard or very abrasive material. But maybe your Trident is simply defective (bad heattreat) or was run too soft.

The edgeholding will depend on several factors and which you can tune depending on your needs: If you cut a lot of abrasive stuff, you are best served with a steel that has high abrasion resistance such as D2 or S30V. Such steels contain often large carbides and have a large carbide volume which will in turn lead to low edge stability at very accute edge. Meaning a knife in D2 may outlast a different steel on lots of cardboard with a sturdy edge geometry. But it may be outclassed by the same steel on a similar application if you thin the edge out. You would thin out the edge to actually increase the edge holding and the cutting ability. But if you cut a lot of zipties and other plastics, you are IMHO ill served with a thin edge anyways because you are likely to laterally load the edge and it won't hold up. If you cut into very hard materials, the edge is likely to dull by rolling and you might have good experiences with a hard blade like one from ZDP-189 or SGPS. Scraping Aluminum is particularly evil (I deburr aluminum parts on occasion as well), because it forms an oxid layer which is very hard (it is actually used as abrasive) and tends to flake off or might get scratched off, so you might think of Aluminum as covered in an abrasive.

My suggestion would be a Manix aswell. Depending on your intended use you might want to keep in mind that D2 is only marginally stainless. It should stand up just fine in most cases, but if you plan on using it in a very corrosive environment (sweat or saltwater), it might not be the best choice.
 
Endura / Delica VG10 or ZDP189 (Delica is out, Endura in March I think). If you're doing a lot of bait cleaning / gutting, ZDP189 stain resistance is not as good as say, VG10.

For cardboard, get a box-cutter or anything with a full flat grind. the super thin blades work best, even when they're partially dull. or a full flat grind Calyso Jr grey VG10 or ZDP189 (burgundy red).
 
Thankyou everyone for posting.I ordered a Spyderco Manix plain blade but still looking you can never have to many knifes.
 
If your looking for something that wont need sharpening you might look into some of the ceramic blades. I dont know how well any folder will hold up to scraping alum. But for cutting things i've heard that you cant beat the ceramic blades.
 
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