Best Knife Steels in order Least to greatest?

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Hey everyone, I'm new to this forum and Its great to be here! Anyways, I have been organizing a chart (or at least trying) of the best steels used for knives in order from worst to best. The only factors I have been considering is The toughness of the blade and how long it retains it's edge. With those factors can anyone help me out?
Thanks!
 
Well first off welcome to blade forums!
I'm not a expert on steels but if you have a smart phone there's a app called "Knife steel composition chart" that tells you about every knife steel out there.

Hope it helps!

-niner
 
Well first off welcome to blade forums!
I'm not a expert on steels but if you have a smart phone there's a app called "Knife steel composition chart" that tells you about every knife steel out there.

Hope it helps!


-niner

I am searching for this app as we speak! I did not know of this before.......
 
I know a lot of it depends on grind, type of edge, ect but I still find it facilitating to look at the different components in the modern steels
 
alright heres what i thoughtt. feel free to add thoughts, add more types of steels or just change this list. im not sure how correct it is.
Knife Metal Chart (Worst to Best)
420
Surgical Steel
Aus4
3cr13
Aus-6
440A
440B
420HC
440C
1095
Carbon V
VG-10
Sandvik 12c27
Ats-134
154-cm
A-2
D-2
Aus 8a
1095 Cro-Van
S-30v
Bg-42
S-60v
440V
ZDP-189
 
If toughness is a primary consideration, the order of that list changes considerably.
 
I own a couple of dozen knives and can only give my opinion based upon what I have.

154-CM
CPM 154
VG-10
SV30
CTS-XHP

I do own knives with some different steels, however these are my favorites. Let me also add, I own some AUS-8 knives that have a wicked edge.
 
I'm not one that believes in better, or best steels especially based on toughness or wear resistance. That being said that list of steels isn't correct based on toughness, or wear resistance.

In addition to that any steel can jump around on the list based on heat treat, final hardness, grind, geometry, thickness, etc. It's not realistic which is why there aren't any lists of better, or best steels. About all you can do is make the steels in the knives as similar as possible in thickness and grind and measure wear as best as you can. That's what Jim Ankerson has done and so far of tests published here it's about as good as it can get from a practical aspect.

Still, you can have fun and spend a lot of time and money trying out different knives. Don't look for any general consensus for your ratings. It won't work. I've seen too many things accepted as fact and retold over and over that were not true.

People also want their favorite steel, or brand of knife to outperform others and therefore justify why they sppent X amount of dollars to get "the best".

Joe
 
Theres no "best" steel, different steels are better for different applications. 440A is generally considered junk (do you hear that Les Stroud??!!) but I'd rather that on a scuba knife than 1095, its all about application.
 
Well just off the top of my head:
I believe 440v and s60v are the same steel under a different name...
M390
CPM M4
CPM 3V
S90V
S110V
CRUWEAR
CXT-XHP
ELMAX
D2

Also there's SR-101 wich is only (as far as I know) used by swamp rat and scrap yard knives.

Then there's INFI wich is only used by Busse combat.
 
You left off some of the highest-rated stainless, such as S90V, CTS-20CP, S110V
Look up Ankerson. He has all this. There is a sticky thread here somewhere that is great. He's done all this already.
 
Hey everyone, I'm new to this forum and Its great to be here! Anyways, I have been organizing a chart (or at least trying) of the best steels used for knives in order from worst to best. The only factors I have been considering is The toughness of the blade and how long it retains it's edge. With those factors can anyone help me out?
Thanks!


It's pretty much impossible to make a accurate list like that due to the many variables that effect performance....

Also toughness and edge retention are two completely different factors so that would be two lists, not one...

Edge retention basically follows alloy (carbide) content so that can be used as a rough estimate.....

I know there are a lot of people around that buy into the cool-aid of what they see on the internet, but if it really doesn't make since based on the alloy content of the steel it's likely just complete BS or an outright lie to push an agenda.
 
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I'm not one that believes in better, or best steels especially based on toughness or wear resistance. That being said that list of steels isn't correct based on toughness, or wear resistance.

In addition to that any steel can jump around on the list based on heat treat, final hardness, grind, geometry, thickness, etc. It's not realistic which is why there aren't any lists of better, or best steels. About all you can do is make the steels in the knives as similar as possible in thickness and grind and measure wear as best as you can. That's what Jim Ankerson has done and so far of tests published here it's about as good as it can get from a practical aspect.

Still, you can have fun and spend a lot of time and money trying out different knives. Don't look for any general consensus for your ratings. It won't work. I've seen too many things accepted as fact and retold over and over that were not true.

People also want their favorite steel, or brand of knife to outperform others and therefore justify why they sppent X amount of dollars to get "the best".

Joe


Joe,


You forgot HYPE, urban legends, perception, BS Stories that can't possibly be true, so called magic heat treatments and other marketing tactics that have NOTHING to do with real performance.
 
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