Recommendation? Better stone holder

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Can anyone recommend a better quality stone holder with metal parts that will not flash rust on exposure to water?

Given I sharpen using a lot of water, my stone holder is going to get wet. :cool: I usually rinse it off when done and let it air dry. It's been flash rusting on the threads and inside the nut threads. I'm cleaning that up, but these things are gonna get wet repeatedly so maybe I need a better stone holder.
 
Suehiro Deluxe. No signs of rust for years. Single rod clamp is fast. The version sold by TFJ comes with two rubber risers and a plastic pond tray. The risers can be used alone for stones both small and large or in conjunction with the main holder to provide clearance over the pond tray. Been looking at the Czar Precision Ultimate Sink Bridge for about two years now. Latest revision is supposed to feature Type III HA. It is really a luxury buy at around $180 shipped. Completely not necessary. But this year may be the year I splurge on the Ultimate as I was left dissatisfied with the Naniwa
and Tojiro offerings in the past...
 
Thanks. Lately I've been having to use my DMT plastic bases, which fortunately can be adjusted to fit a standard 8 inch stone. My stone holder is not able to handle water at all.
 
I love my early IM-313 holder. Most of the parts are aluminum or stainless. Plus, I use oil during sharpening so nothing rusts. DM
 
View attachment 782735 My 313 Norton is rustless but so is my Shapton rubber brick. The stone is laid on top of the brick. One side of the brick grips the stone on 4 sides with gummy rubber on the perimeter. The other side of the brick has a raised edge at each end of the stone which is good for flattening the stone with a diamond dresser.
 
I've been using a cinderblock with a thin sheet of recycled rubber on the top. Rest the entire thing in a shallow boot tray. Is by far the most stable sharpening surface I've come up with, even without locks on the stone. The smell of wet cement fades over time...
 
These look neat, but in the end, maybe more expense and stuff than I was ideally looking for. I was hoping to find a fairly simple stone holder that was either true stainless parts, or perhaps something all plastic.

Currently I have 2 options that I can make work, neither is ideal but will probably keep using for now. I cannot seem to find a true stainless stone holder.

  • The plastic holders included with my DMT duosharp stones. These actually work pretty well, they can hold stones of several different sizes and have little rubber feet on the surface to hold stones that aren't the standard DMT sizes that you can clamp in. So for example, with my 8" atoma and ultrasharp stones, and my Baryonyx stones, I can set them on the DMT holder with the plastic stop at the far end, which holds the stone in place as I do all strokes away from me. The rubber feet work well and the stones don't slide around. This is actually not a bad improvised holder and eliminates the issues with water. I'd rather have a fully clamped solution, but this has worked ok as a fallback.
  • I will probably just have to maintain my regular chrome-plated stone holder more carefully. I was just rinsing it off and letting it air dry fully assembled. Problem is, areas that are enclosed like under the rubber holders, and the adjustment nuts at their current position on the support rails, those areas weren't getting a chance to dry out well enough after water gets in there. I think going forward, when this stone holder get wet, I'll have to plan on wash it, disassemble to air dry, and then coat metal parts with mineral oil or CorrosionX.
 
HeavyHanded said:
I've been using a cinderblock with a thin sheet of recycled rubber on the top. Rest the entire thing in a shallow boot tray. Is by far the most stable sharpening surface I've come up with, even without locks on the stone. The smell of wet cement fades over time...
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Yes that's an interesting improvised approach, like it. Similar to what I learned using the DMT holders as improvised holders for my non-DMT stones: you don't necessarily have to clamp a stone in to keep it stationary and stable. A good rubber base, like a full mat, or some rubber feet, can keep the stone in place pretty well. Then you just need something stable to elevate it and set the stone on.

Example: my new 2-side Ultrasharp 300/1200 stone came with a little rubber mat about the size of the stone, really nice, would be perfect for this. Now I just need to come up with some kind of semi-heavy, water resistant base object that's about the right height for it sit on, similar to your cinderblock.
 
+1 for the Shapton pond and stone holder. The stone holder, most importantly, is heavy and tall so it stays in place and gives you plenty of room to work. It's probably the best investment I've made in sharpening accessories.

FYI, the Shapton stone holder is wider than the glass stones.
 
Jason B. said:
+1 for the Shapton pond and stone holder. The stone holder, most importantly, is heavy and tall so it stays in place and gives you plenty of room to work. It's probably the best investment I've made in sharpening accessories.

FYI, the Shapton stone holder is wider than the glass stones.
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So you're referring to this holder? Will it hold standard stones of other types ranging 8x2, 8x3, etc?

https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/Shapton-GlassStone-Field-Holder-P327.aspx
 
They are referring to the 50200. Marked as discontinued by SS but available elsewhere, including CKTG. Sized for 210mm stones. It has always been on my radar. Question for owners of the 50200: How is the fit with 205mm stones (the most common J stone size aside from 210mm)?
 
Yep. In stock at JKI as well. TFJ has the lowest overall price (including shipping), but you will have to wait (five days from Japan to Los Angeles as a point of reference).
 
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adamlau said:
They are referring to the 50200. Marked as discontinued by SS but available elsewhere, including CKTG. Sized for 210mm stones. It has always been on my radar. Question for owners of the 50200: How is the fit with 205mm stones (the most common J stone size aside from 210mm)?
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Both sides of the brick are useable but are configured differently. The open side has a ridge that forms a rectangular support, and the end bars are in the same plane as the rectangle. The other side has a center support, and the end bars are raised to prevent the stone from sliding axially. On this side, the stone is supported at the ends and in the middle but not on the edges.
 
The only issue with Shapton currently is the products might be difficult to get because Shapton USA is no longer. I sure Shapton will continue on here in the US but it might be some time before everything is back to normal.
 
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