They are having a trade up program right now where you send in another brand of tactical pant and you can get about a 50% discount for a pair of theirs and I am going to send them a pair of 5.11 nylon pants which are a 40x32 and I am now a 38x32 so good way to get a rid of pants that do not fit for some that hopefully will. I already have two pairs of 5.11 tac lites and they are awesome. But if anyone has experience with the Blackhawk brand pants then you opinions would be welcomed.