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Bottom line is this......the Buck "Company Line" is that stamping weakens knife blades to a degree so serious that Buck is going to engraving rather than stamping on many of their knives.
Problem......I have never heard of a blade failing due to a stamp. Millions in use.....hello.
Buck does not answer questions about the issue.
Buck says they have done tests that prove their conclusion, but it's all strictly in-house and they will not share or submit the tests to neutral third parties for confirmation.
And, because I reserve faith as the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.....only for God, and not for men--I'm skeptical.
Therefore, until I see the apocalyptic failure of the millions of stamped knives in use, OR the Buck's release of their tests for verification by independent science--I regard Buck's claims as bogus and engraving as a method to save a few dollars.
Dave 110 (who admits to some bias toward Buck) said this:
(Note: Those of you who know Dave will notice that he wrote this in a highly unusual way........he wrote in normal prose rather than his usual encrypted jargon--that shows how upset he is about this issue.)
Here's Dave:
So, Dave110 admits there is no real-world practical evidence that knives are weakened by stamps.
He explains that by saying that "there are weaker locations for a knife to fail at."
I can't buy that. If knives always fail at weaker locations there would be no point in eliminating the stamp.
He also says:
That's like saying that because we don't see pink unicorns flying around, it doesn't mean they don't exist.
Sorry, Dave.....I have to SEE a pink unicorn before I believe they exist.
He also says:
Engraving is much easier and cheaper.....and can be done at any time, so it avoids the problems that occur when people forget to stamp blades (you can't stamp them at the END of the process, only the beginning).
All in all, I find Dave's arguments unpersuasive.
Still hoping for some serious answers by Buck that would support their position.
Problem......I have never heard of a blade failing due to a stamp. Millions in use.....hello.
Buck does not answer questions about the issue.
Buck says they have done tests that prove their conclusion, but it's all strictly in-house and they will not share or submit the tests to neutral third parties for confirmation.
And, because I reserve faith as the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.....only for God, and not for men--I'm skeptical.
Therefore, until I see the apocalyptic failure of the millions of stamped knives in use, OR the Buck's release of their tests for verification by independent science--I regard Buck's claims as bogus and engraving as a method to save a few dollars.
Dave 110 (who admits to some bias toward Buck) said this:
(Note: Those of you who know Dave will notice that he wrote this in a highly unusual way........he wrote in normal prose rather than his usual encrypted jargon--that shows how upset he is about this issue.)
Here's Dave:
So, Dave110 admits there is no real-world practical evidence that knives are weakened by stamps.
He explains that by saying that "there are weaker locations for a knife to fail at."
I can't buy that. If knives always fail at weaker locations there would be no point in eliminating the stamp.
He also says:
That's like saying that because we don't see pink unicorns flying around, it doesn't mean they don't exist.
Sorry, Dave.....I have to SEE a pink unicorn before I believe they exist.
He also says:
Engraving is much easier and cheaper.....and can be done at any time, so it avoids the problems that occur when people forget to stamp blades (you can't stamp them at the END of the process, only the beginning).
All in all, I find Dave's arguments unpersuasive.
Still hoping for some serious answers by Buck that would support their position.
