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Brands to stay away from

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Weasipoint, Jul 4, 2020.

  1. Weasipoint

    Weasipoint Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Aug 8, 2019
    Well I think its safe to say my first real post was a "success " and got peoples attention. I learned alot but am more confused than before I asked lol, but really, basic take away - like what you like and try the knife for yourself.
  2. dirc


    Jan 31, 2018
    I like how he had no qualms about slapping just about every company and maker ; )

    honestly curious now about what knife he would buy? maybe he's gone full custom only? (I would if I could afford it lol)
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  3. Pomsbz


    Jul 31, 2015
    That was funny. :)
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  4. vjb.knife

    vjb.knife Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 2, 2002
    I think that most brands have some good models and some bad ones. So, I try not to say that everything from a particular brand is not worth owning. An example for me would be that I have had a problem with CRKT for a long time but recently bought their model called the Panache and found it to be quite nice. Back in the 70's and 80's I was big time into Gerber and Cold Steel, but not so much now, although, I think they each have some pretty decent models.
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  5. Quapukulu


    Feb 13, 2014
    How's it going boss?

    Honestly I was just poking fun, because I didn't want the topic to become too serious. There are some very unethical brands that steal designs, lie about origin and other unsavory practices, which has been discussed a lot in this thread or GBU. In general, people should just buy what makes them happy.

    Personally I've read/posted here for almost a decade, and my collection has been narrowed down to mostly rare but "non-expensive". For example, when Canal St Cutlery or Queen was shutting down, I bought each just as memory. I try to get rare models (not sprints), like the Lum Tanto and Dodo. Relative to many members who EDC +$200 knives, mine are just novel to keep. My two most carried knives are a Higonokami or PM2, depending on pants material.
  6. Chronovore

    Chronovore Basic Member Basic Member

    Aug 29, 2019
    I like Hogue but I haven't tried their knives. I can wholeheartedly recommend their Hardwood and Tamer grips for revolvers.

    I'm a bit more critical of the Ruger knives by CRKT. I had an LCK and was not impressed. Not loving the design is one thing. The poor quality on mine was another. I ended up returning it. Seeing how many people like that knife, I have to assume that I was on the junk end of CRKT's QC ballpark. The size of that ballpark seems to be a running complaint here. That wasn't the first time I got a piece of junk from CRKT. I've made it my last time for them.

    Schrade is another one that's let me down, including with fixed blades. They are a big part of the reason I had written off 9Cr18Mov. I'm so glad I caved and tried one of the initial Civivi knives in 9Cr18Mov. It was like the difference between 420HC and Buck's 420HC. That opened me up to trying a fixed blade from Real Steel in 9Cr18Mov. Same deal. Now that I've had Civivi, Real Steel, and some of the other better budget brands from China in my EDC rotation, it feels like a big step up.
  7. Ron Sabbagh

    Ron Sabbagh Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Sep 15, 1999
    Dude...Now you got me interested....what do you carry?
  8. ArchVV

    ArchVV Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 8, 2015
    Haha, well, it would be pretty easy to do this with custom makers too. I have or have had most of the brands mentioned and can still agree with their characterizations.
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  9. Hackenslash

    Hackenslash Don't feed the Trolls Platinum Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    Geez Dude! Now there are no knife brands left for me to buy! I guess I'll start collecting action figures.

    Appreciate the humor; well played, Sir.
  10. soc_monki

    soc_monki Basic Member Basic Member

    Apr 5, 2019
    I hear star wars figures are good!
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  11. not2sharp

    not2sharp Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 1999
    I like them all, even Strider and the gas station knives. It's not that I would necessarily buy them, but I appreciate that they will lure a few customers away from the knives that I prefer; which means more knives for me. Brands like Mtech actually set the quality standard for entry level knife buyers. They produce a vast mix of product, some of which performs reasonably well. They give Kershaw, CRKT, Spyderco and the rest something to aim for; which would be knives made well enough to command a premium above Mtech.

    Brand fan boys are always due for a disappointment. Not everything made by our favored brands is a gem. It would be much more helpful to take each individual product on its own. Is the performance and quality there and is it worth the requested price to you? Busse might make a terrific knife, but at $600-800 + the cost of a sheath, that Tramontina machete might be just the thing, to take down a couple of branches in the back yard.

    It is better to ask which knife is best for my needs.

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  12. PirateSeulb


    Jun 6, 2017
    I will also add to my previous list Pakistan knives but they are really only found at fleabay and flea markets and gas stops I think also often unlabeled but you know them when you see them. I also avoid Emerson as they are all chisel ground and usually with a right handed chisel, I am a lefty, and he thinks his knives are great when they don't surpass production knives at half the cost.

    My other suggestion to @Weasipoint is to check out the GBU, Good Bad Ugly, section of the forum and maybe search some makers/brands and see what pops up. I personally tend to focus my interest on anything negative as it is usually obvious when it is a legitimate complaint or even if it is if it is one that bothers me any. You will find most of the horror stories that might give you the insight on weather or not you want to buy a knife from a given makers, brand, or person(when buying on the exchange).
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  13. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    @Weasipoint ^This is excellent advice. Here's the link: https://www.bladeforums.com/forums/feedback-the-good-the-bad-the-ugly.699/
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  14. herisson

    herisson Apple slicing rocking chair dweller Platinum Member

    Mar 11, 2013
    I think your first post was not such a success as you assume. It drew attention but maybe not in a good way. There is no question there are questionable and even very questionable brands out there. Most are very well known by knife aficionados or regular readers of Blade Forums. So, I see your post as stirring (again) the pot or beating (again) the dead horse. It brings nothing to the table. Just my opinion, of course.
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  15. Quapukulu


    Feb 13, 2014
    Morning, boss.

    I don't carry anything different from any other guys on the forum. If wearing jeans, then a PM2. Anything else I have a Higonokami because it's super light. I have a Bugout on the way to try. In terms of collecting I've mostly went down to knives that are hard to get or have some sort of novelty. My grails would be finding a plain edge Civilian or the G5 Metamorph in that salmon color. So nothing much more than $100 when new.

    I've owned or used everything on that immature list I posted. Just wanted to have fun and lighten the mood. The idea was if you exaggerate, like how cartoonists exaggerate facial features, then everything looks bad. Just do what makes you happy.
  16. CSG


    Dec 15, 2007
    I bought a Smith & Wesson *tactical* flipper from Big 5 about 20 years ago not knowing anything about their knives (I still have it). I paid just under $10. I overpaid by about $9...
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  17. Weasipoint

    Weasipoint Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Aug 8, 2019
    I had no intention of stirring the pot or anything like that, as I stated in the original post I was just looking for advice. Im again sorry for starting such a big debate and I've learned to be more cautious with what I ask and how, but I wasn't trying to beat a dead horse or upset anyone. Ive learned alot looking at these forums and was just trying to get a little more involved
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  18. jideta

    jideta Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 8, 2020
    No worries dude! Stir all you like! Questions like this gotta come up every now and then...
    I managed to learn a few things.
  19. skyhorse

    skyhorse Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 30, 2010
    Can't go wrong with the Buck 110 :thumbsup:
  20. Dadpool

    Dadpool Gold Member Gold Member

    May 18, 2015
    Eh, you didn't start a debate -- you just asked an honest question with complex answers. Some folks here will show up with a debate for everything. ;)
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