Buck M9 Bayonet vs LanCay, Ontario M9 Bayonet

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DiamondsTip

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I'm looking to purchase one of these knives but I'm a bit flakey on which brand to choose. After going to a few sites reading a few posts and hearing some negative things about LanCay (Even though they are GI issue) I've decided to get a buck or a ontario. However Buck's M9 Contract to the military was terminated and this knife would be more expenisve and harder to find. Ontario split the contract with lancay and supply 50% of the current USGI M9 Bayonets was just wondering which brand to go for? Buck or Ontario? Any info/resources would be greatly appreciated.
 
The ontario m9 that I have encountered had a really nasty edge. It was not made to a very high standard.
 
DiamondsTip
I curious about this myself. Tell me what the price range is if you don't mind? I was looking into this a while back, but got to busy. Did you end up with much info on quality compairisons? Thanks, Reagan
 
SOX, I ran across a site that basically said that LanCay Was crap compared to the buck knife. I didnt find much on ontario. But Buck is supposedly the best as far as i can see but high in price. Theres a brand new rarely been used Buck M9 on Ebay right now it has 5 days left and its already like 122 bucks so im guessing itll be 200+ by the time its done. Looks awesome though a real steal if you have the cash on ya. But i would still like to hear the opinions of others on ontarios M9.
 
Seen the same POS jjcoolay described. The edge is really bad, the coating rubs off....
 
Yea thats what I really didnt like about the knives was the coating kinda scares me. The buck version doesnt have a coating either.
 
Stupid me forgot to mention i have a ontario knife that has a coat on it havent had a problem but the knife hasnt met much use yet.
 
Diamonds Tip, I was wondering what attracted you to using a bayonet for a knife. I'm not challenging you, but as I had to carry a bayonet for 23 years (both the M7 and subsequently, the M9) I find it strange that someone would want to use one of these heavy things as a field knife. The M9 is heavy enough that I decided to carry my own privately purchased M7 plus a good field knife for the same weight. There are many knives out there with better steel and for the price of one of the more collectable M9's you can buy a very good custom or handmade/custom fixed blade. Just a thought from someone who has had to use one of these things too much.

Bruce Woodbury
 
M-11 Explosive Ordinance Disposal Knife...
Blade has a "magnetic signature" which I think means that it's magnetized...

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A knife with a 'magnetic signature'? Wouldn't that be a bad knife to have around for bomb disposal?
 
because Anti-ship mines work on Magnetic Signatures, and they generally don't experience any magnetic disturbances while they lay in wait for their victims, but land type mines are set off by tripping the firing device, or a very large magnetic disturbance... I would think that the tiny magnetic field of the blade will serve as a probe, ie "feels" heavier or a pull when held near a mine. Anti-Personnel mines would not be set on magnetic signature because you don't want a tank that's 3 feet away setting it off, and Anti-Tank mines would have their sensors set much higher so that small objects such as a discarded tin can won't set it off.

knives are generally not used in the actual disarming of a land mine. If possible, the devices are destroyed by shooting, detonating another explosive device, or otherwise tripping the firing device from a safe distance. If that is not possible, then the earth is dug away from the device, the device identified, and then removed using the proper method. The most commom tools are a hand trowel, screwdriver and pliers. It is quite possible that the wide blade of the M-11 is useful as a improvised digging tool.
 
I have 4 Buck bayonets and would be interested in selling either one and I can send you pictures. 3 are Prhobis models excellent to mint condition and one is new with box but not sure which model Buck; they've been in my safe and I have not taken'em out to look at in awhile. I am not interested in making a killing on the selling price so I am willing to dicker on a fair price. There was a time when I thought I had to have every discontinued Buck Frontiersman, Buckmaster or Buck bayonet I found on the net. No so anymore, I have too many and they sit idle, unused, hidden in the dark corners of my safe not doing anyone a darn bit of good. belt-loop@cox.net
 
I guess you haven't read the rules about selling stuff on this board... I'm sure the moderator will edit your post shortly. Don't let this get you down... I didn't read the rules either... no one does... I learned the rules by watching the other guys get spanked.

Two, the Buckmaster was a POS... an expensive POS, but a POS nonetheless.

Three, the more I looked at the m9 Bayonets, the less I like them. Ineffective metal, unreliable heat treatment, and design/construction flaws make it a less than perfect field knife. As a Bayonet, it does fine, but as someone who does not own a rifle or shotgun, it does me little good.

I guess, it does however, make an excellent collection piece.
 
I used to collect the M9 bayonets for a while, and have owned all three manufacturers.

Hands down the Buck M9 had the best construction and quality. If you can get your hands on one, I do recommend going with a Buck.


When Lancay come onto the M9 contract they weren't putting out very good quality bayonets. However quickly fixed that problem. Anywhere from the mid-latest production bayonets would serve you fine, but you'd probably want to stay away from the very early Lancay productions.

Ontario is kind of a puzzle. When they first started on the M9 contract for 25,000 bayonets I picked on up back in I think mid-2001(?) I believe. The one I received was outstanding. Perfect grinds, fricking great edge, and the construction was top notch. Due to that I purchased a few more a couple months later and found none of them to come anywhere close to the quality of the first one.
 
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