Buck Stockmen Compared 301/371.

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Here are the pictures for contrast and comparison of the American made Buck 301 and the Chinese made Buck 371 Stockman Pattern slipjoints.

Both knives are new 2005 manufacture, the 371 was bought by me at my local Wal-mart, and the 301 was sent to me by Buck as replacement for a new 301 I had recently purchased that would not allow the Spey blade to open until the Sheepsfoot blade was opened first.

Both knives have been carried and used some, but have not yet been sharpened. (UPDATE 08/19/2007:In the year+ since writing this original review, I have continued to use both knives and resharpened them both numerous times. I haven't really noticed a significant difference in the edge holding of either knife over the other.)

Technical Junk:

301
Blade Steel 420HC
Handles Sawcut Black Delrin
Bolsters Nickel Silver
Liners Stainless Steel
Origin USA

371
Blade Steel 440C (later models are 420HC)
Handles Stained Birch
Bolsters Nickel Silver
Liners Brass
Origin China

Both knives have good solid walk/talk and razor sharp blades out of the box.

Photo #1 Front View

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Fit and finish are equal, I personally like the Birch handles better, but black Sawcut Delrin is a classic in it’s own right, so it’s really a matter of personal taste.

Photo #2 End View

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As you can see, surprisingly enough, there is a clear winner of the two knives I have. The 301 has significant gaps between the metal parts, as opposed to the 371 that only has a gap in 1 place and it’s not as wide. The gaps really are cosmetic only; there is no looseness on either knife. I have done a random sample of about 30 of each knife from different retail stores, and found that overall; there is no greater problem with this with either the domestic or offshore knives. Both had roughly the same number of minor flaws like this, but I never found one that the gaps actually effected the knife. And considering the price point that both sell for (301 below $40.00) (371 below $20.00), either is an amazing value for the money.

Photo #3 Top View

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From the top, both knives are pretty much the same,. If you look you can see that the 301 has the main blade “centered” better. It’s not really that the 371’s blade is offcenter, but it’s ground more on one side to clear the other blade. Doesn’t effect the use any, but does look odd when viewed from this angle.

Photo #4 Bottom View (and yes, I used a Schrade Old-Timer box to balance them on :D )

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Great fit on both knives here, handles, liners and back springs fit perfect on both!

The blades are where the really noticeable differences between the domestic and offshore knives shows up.


Photo #5 Spey Blades

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The 301 has a much more typical Spey blade as found on most Stockman Patterns, while the 371 has a somewhat “sharks tooth” profile, similar to what you see on some SOG folders, and bordering on a Pen blade to some degree.. If you actually use a Stockman for the farm/ranch chores they have evolved for, then the 301’s Spey blade is the best. Since my farm days are over, I actually have come to prefer the 371’s Spey.

Two things stand out at this point also, the 301 has pivot pins that come all the way through the bolster, which the 371 does not. Noticeable cosmetic difference, but not sure it has any functional effect.

The other will be noticeable on all three blades, the offshore knives have MUCH larger and deeper nail-nicks than the domestic knives do.

Photo #6 Sheepsfoot Blades

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Not much difference here, both have pretty much a typical Sheepsfoot blades, the nail-nick difference is easily seen, and the grind line is straighter on the 371.

Photo #7 Main Blades

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Again, not much to say, the nail-nicks are different, and the grind line is better on the 371.


Overall, I think both knives are great users. Getting past the country of origin things, the only real difference is probably the blade steel, but so far I haven’t been able to notice much variation between 420HC or 440C by Buck. Both seem to have held there edges well under normal day-to-day cutting.

In the end, I think Buck has winners here in both series. Buck is obviously reaching out to all members of the knife buying world, those that may have tighter budgets, and those willing to pay more for American made products. Good knives that provide consumers of all economic levels with dependable pocketknives!

Sorry this was so long, I admit I have indulged my “wanna be knife writer” bug a little, hope at least some folks enjoy it! :D
 
:thumbup: ..That was a great review of both knives TLC...I'm not a great fan of slip-joints in general but after your infirmative work covering both versions of this knife, I may go out this week end and pick one or the other up. Aw heck...more than likely I'll pick up one of each...LOL...Thanks for putting in all the work on this review.
 
Yes, thanks for the writeup! :) I do like Delrin...maybe, if I have some cash left after payday... :rolleyes:

Does the Chinese Buck really have hidden bolster pins, or are they just buffed out better than the US Buck (and partly invisible)??? :confused:

[size=-2]BTW: That bottom view, #4, just indicates both were finish ground after assembly...it's not really micro-accuracy in machining...just smart manufacturing... ;) :D [/size]

Edit: I hope Joe reads TLC's review...Might be worth sending some Idaho-ians to China to see how they do their manufacturing... ;)
 
chickentrax said:
Does the Chinese Buck really have hidden bolster pins, or are they just buffed out better than the US Buck (and partly invisible)??? :confused:

Even under magnification, I can see no trace of a visible bolster pin on the Chinese models.


[SIZE=-2]BTW: That bottom view, #4, just indicates both were finish ground after assembly...it's not really micro-accuracy in machining...just smart manufacturing... ;) :D

Do you mean "ground" or "polished"? I have seen many of both domestic and chinese manufacture with VERY visible gaps between the back springs and liners.
 
The Last Confederate said:
I have seen many of both domestic and chinese manufacture with VERY visible gaps between the back springs and liners.

Me, too - especially on my own knives, *before* I machined and buffed them. It is a cheap and easy way to manufacture a quality-looking item. :)
 
The Last Confederate said:
Even under magnification, I can see no trace of a visible bolster pin on the Chinese models.




Do you mean "ground" or "polished"? I have seen many of both domestic and chinese manufacture with VERY visible gaps between the back springs and liners.

Hi TLC,

Here is a tip from Joe H. "rub the knife on your pant leg for a bit, then exhale on it, the bolster pin will show up" that is if it has one!!!! Give this a try and let us know what you see. Just befor I posted this I gave it a try on an old 703 that has polished bolsters, the pins were invisible until I did the rub/exhale thing.

Thank you
jb4570
 
jb4570 said:
Hi TLC,

Here is a tip from Joe H. "rub the knife on your pant leg for a bit, then exhale on it, the bolster pin will show up" that is if it has one!!!! Give this a try and let us know what you see. Just befor I posted this I gave it a try on an old 703 that has polished bolsters, the pins were invisible until I did the rub/exhale thing.

Thank you
jb4570

I'll be darned, I thought you were yanking my chain when I first read this, but it worked. You can see the bolster pin when you do this!

I looked at this knife with a jewelers glass and couldn't see it, but you can with this trick. It's very hard to see, but it is there.

To weird!
 
The Last Confederate said:
I'll be darned, I thought you were yanking my chain when I first read this, but it worked. You can see the bolster pin when you do this!

I looked at this knife with a jewelers glass and couldn't see it, but you can with this trick. It's very hard to see, but it is there.

To weird!
Yeah, if you take it a window, or outside, and point the tip of the blade towards the sun and look real close over and along the spine as you do so, you will find that you will go blind.
Hey, JB4570, cool tip. Works.
Goose.
 
Buckaholic said:
Yeah, if you take it a window, or outside, and point the tip of the blade towards the sun and look real close over and along the spine as you do so, you will find that you will go blind.

HAHA...And if you put your earlobe between the blade and the handle and close the blade, you can do a great Van Gough impression! :D
 
Now you done it JB,,,,, wife caught me,,,,, now all my stuff smells like lysol. :D :D :thumbup:
 
Sod the knives I want a camera likes yours. Great job Last confederate really apreciate the detail you went into. both very beautiful knives, is it my imagination or is the main blade on the 301 slightly bigger than the 371 also, the hollow grind on the 301 looks bigger.
 
greebozz said:
Sod the knives I want a camera likes yours. Great job Last confederate really apreciate the detail you went into. both very beautiful knives, is it my imagination or is the main blade on the 301 slightly bigger than the 371 also, the hollow grind on the 301 looks bigger.

I got both knives out and measured them for you, the blades are the same size, but the much higher and slanted grind line on the 301 does make it appear wider from spine to edge, but it's an optical illusion, both blades were the same.

To be honest, I was suprised at how uneven the grind line is on the 301 I have, I plan to check some more current 301's to see if it's just mine or not.
 
I have a 301 and 371, both have the 2014 date code.
My 371 has the G10 covers, and a single bolster.
The 371 has a slightly stiffer pull on all three blades than the 301.
The spey remains different, the 301's having the more traditional profile.
To date, after 8 or 9 months of EDC'ing them, nothing but a couple swipes on a strop has been needed to maintain the edges.
The fit and finish on mine are pretty much equal, no blade wobble on any of the blades.
Both are a good heavy work knife.
 
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I just ordered a 371. I really like the looks of the g10. I'm really surprised that a knife this cheap could be such high quality, considering that almost 10 years after this thread was started the knives are still below $20.
 
adding to a zombie thread -

I have a wood-handled 371 that I bought at a BassPro in 2006 for less than $20; I've carried and used it daily ever since (12 years now) and am extremely pleased with it. I keep it sharp, and although it's not an easy steel to hone, it holds an edge quite well. No gaps, no wobble at all - I have NO complaints about build quality.

The only defect is that after a year or two the Buck hammer/anvil badge fell out of the handle. I filled the hole with JB Weld, sanded it smooth, and have never missed it. I have a knife that I would instantly recognize out of 1000 of the same model.

The 371 model of stockman is, for me, the perfect size. Any larger and it would be a fat drag in my pocket, any smaller and it wouldn't be properly functional.

The finish on the wood has worn dull, which just gives it better grip.

On the rare occasions I've misplaced this knife I've missed it sorely.

Most recently it was gone for a couple of days (I threw it in the pannier of my motorcycle when I had to visit the local police station - zero weapons policy - and forgot about it) and I went looking for a replacement. None of the other Stockmans I ran across were the proper size (Case, Schrade; much pricier too). Went online and found the 371 is offered at Walmart ($19.95) and bought a new one, even though my original turned up.

The new one has a jigged bone handle and is slightly wider through the handle (about a 1/16th inch), with proportionately slightly broader blades (edge to spine), and is ever so slightly heftier. This one stays in it's box in my desk drawer against that unfortunate day when I lose to original once and for all.
 
I like the 371 alot, as far as slip joints go. At the time when I got mine, Buck didn’t offer a USA made wood scale Stockman. Fit and finish are extremely nice and back spring is noticeably stronger/tighter with better snap than my 301. Steel is certainly not as good, though I thought the steels used were 440A first and then 420J2
 
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