Buck Zipper w/ gut hook?

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Anyone have any impressions on this knife? I just picked one up for the upcoming deer season.

Also I was wondering, in the Buck pamphlet that came with it they recommend sharpening it at a 13-16 degree angle. However, I was looking at the booklet for the Lansky sharpener set that I got with the rods and clamp, and it says that a 25 degree angle is ideal for hunting knives, and that a 17 degree angle is for razor blades and that it's a delicate angle. What's the real deal? thanks
 
reloader said:
...I was looking at the booklet for the Lansky sharpener set that I got with the rods and clamp, and it says that a 25 degree angle is ideal for hunting knives, and that a 17 degree angle is for razor blades and that it's a delicate angle.

Razor blades are typically 3-5 degrees per side, 17 degrees per side is quite robust, this is for example the angle of a typical swamping axe. These are the axes which get the rough root work, actually felling axes are more acute.

Buck's recommendation is reasonable assuming you want some ability to sustain forceful bone contacts and the ability of the edge or twist/pry in joints. If it is just a meat cutter you can go finer.

-Cliff
 
Buck knows how to sharpen knives so that they perform. Five years ago they analyzed customer preferences and found that they wanted knives that cut better. Buck changed the way that they ground their blades and edges to improver performance. They called it "Edge 2000". Basically they hollow ground them thinner and ground the edges to a lower angle.

I don't know what the Lansky booklet was talking about. Honing at 25 degrees would suck for a hunting knife. Maybe they were talking about the "edge angle" which equals 2x the honing angle. An edge angle of 25 degrees would be 12.5-degree honing angle. When Buck talks about sharpening at a 13-16 degree angle they mean the angle that you tip the blade from horizontal when you are honing. The end result is around a 30-degree edge angle. That is one of the two standard settings for a Spyderco Sharpmaker.

Razors are hone at maybe 5 to 7 degrees per side. That would give an edge included angle of 10 to 14 degrees.
 
Jeff Clark said:
Maybe they were talking about the "edge angle" which equals 2x the honing angle.

No, those are actually the per side angles on the Lansky.

-Cliff
 
So what's correct here? Are the angles that Lansky specifies for their sharpening system actually different from the angle they create on the blade? Or do they just have a different idea than Buck for sharpening?
 
reloader said:
Or do they just have a different idea than Buck for sharpening?

Yes, Buck set their angles lower than most, they changed significant a short time ago as Jeff noted.

-Cliff
 
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