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Bad Bud Nealy terrible work

Discussion in 'FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly!' started by venom1, Jan 19, 2019.

  1. Lance Leon

    Lance Leon Gold Member Gold Member

    651
    May 3, 2017
    He started music after high school, so he started doing that at 18 years old, earliest. The dude has got to be at least 93 now...I concur with your conclusion, Thomas.
     
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  2. T. Erdelyi

    T. Erdelyi Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 3, 2001
    I saw him at a local show a few years ago, if he’s 93 he looks damn good. Late 60s early 70s tops.

    Everything he had on his table was on par with what I’ve had and held. If there’s one thing I will say that I don’t like and miss is the original tang stamp.

    As for sharpness, the hollow grind on my Aikuchi came shaving sharp and like the OP I enjoy sharpening, its mental therapy for me so I sharpen every knife I get to my tastes.

    Musician, photographer, custom knife maker, those are some pretty impressive accomplishments.

    Personally I’m sorry he didn’t make you right, that’s unusual and out of character for him. He’s always been a stand up and professional guy to deal with, always eager to please.

    I’d really like to hear his side, unfortunately he’s declined to respond leaving the OPs post as the only truth. Usually it happens to makers who rise too quick and can’t keep their business models in pace with their demand. Something always suffers, usually the product or the relationship with the end users.

    Sometimes it takes longer, and happens so slowly no one notices till the end. I hope this isn’t the case with Bud and next time I get him alone at a show or see him at his shop I’ll have to ask him his side.
     
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  3. Lance Leon

    Lance Leon Gold Member Gold Member

    651
    May 3, 2017
    Maybe his careers overlapped, I hadn't considered that. Good explanation for how he's not 93 and still making knives.
     
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  4. Gastonknife

    Gastonknife

    Dec 15, 2008
    Hate to see all this. Bud had a good reputation. I can't see this being a positive for him. Would be nice if he came here and gave his side of the story, but it appears that he won't. That knife is awful and not even g10 from what I can tell - looks like buffalo horn, which he seems to work with on some of his knives. He should be ashamed to send a customer a knife like that. No reason in the world he should not have offered you a full refund if you sent it back. Now with the chargeback thing on the card; it's probably passed a point of no return. He likely got ticked that you had the "gall" to do that....perhaps his head has gotten a bit too big? Not sure. It happens to makers sometimes when they become popular and been around awhile. They sometimes think they can dictate everything to buyers, change agreed prices, act like a jerk, etc. Reminds me of an issue I had with Brend years ago. Sorry OP.
     
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  5. venom1

    venom1 Gold Member Gold Member

    20
    Aug 10, 2014
    Thanks guys for hearing me out. These forums really are great to help others not get screwed. But sometimes we get someone who just plain don’t care.
    I plan on collecting knives for a very long time and he really just screwed me over. And all the follow up I had to do to get this completed. If anyone has any questions please pm me. I don’t spend as much time as I’d like on bladeforums but I want to answer any questions anyone might have.
    Good luck guys and if any changes I will post them ASAP.
     
  6. venom1

    venom1 Gold Member Gold Member

    20
    Aug 10, 2014
    At least I got $365 back. I highly highly recommend staying away from him.
     
  7. Beak14

    Beak14 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    78
    Nov 13, 2015
    In your first post, you mentioned $565.00. Well, that's how I read it, anyway. Did you lose $200.00, or am I misunderstanding, your situation.

    I'm glad you told your story, so others will, possibly, avoid this maker. But, seems as though, when somebody really wants something, they listen to nothing else, but their desire.

    Oh well, moving right along - Happy Wednesday, everybody! Is "Humpday" supposed to matter? :p:D
     
  8. Jsega51

    Jsega51 Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 11, 2015
    The OP put down a $200 deposit that is not being refunded to him. The $365 was the remainder of the payment that was stopped.
     
  9. fq55

    fq55 Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 27, 1999
    I’m very surprised by this thread. I’ve met Bud a few times at shows and owned a few of his pieces over the years.

    Every knife I have handled or owned from him have been excellent and well made.

    Not sure what is going on here but I do hope this is an anomaly and you get sorted out by Bud.


    I’m surprised at how many posters here don’t seem to know about Bud as I consider him an extremely well established and prolific maker that got tactical knives popular along with Bob Terzuola.
     
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  10. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    I hope that the OP ends up getting a full refund or another knife.

    Ive never owned a Nealy but have been hankering for a Bud Nealy Pesh-Kabz for years. Still do.
     
  11. AndreLinoge

    AndreLinoge

    500
    Nov 20, 2014

    And that was the end of good knives from his shop, the second he made that decision. He should have taken the Bose approach at that point and added an extra digit to his prices instead of producing inferior work for the same price due to "volume".

    Not saying Bose's knives are worth 6k, but his quality never suffered from his expanded demand as he built it. Not only did this price hike (slightly) reduce his demand pressures, he also never upped his production speed so the quality suffered. He did contract his name out to case, which can give you 80% of a bose piece for 10% of the price. Wise move to reduce the wait time and volume for his shop itself, IMO.

    I don't think any good maker would ever look at their past work and say "Boy, I wish I could spend that kind of time on my knives now!" while they are charging more for lower tier work than they used to for their best effort.
    Just seems wrong to me.
     
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  12. am1985

    am1985

    17
    Dec 18, 2016
    i ordered a phoenix off his website literally one year ago today
    when i received it, it was okay...not sharp, plunges and grinds were far from symmetrical...pretty disappointing.

    i returned it.
     
  13. Matthew g

    Matthew g

    12
    Mar 18, 2019
    You have to call them But they will return a knife that's not custom
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2019
  14. Lance Leon

    Lance Leon Gold Member Gold Member

    651
    May 3, 2017
    I don't know what the standard procedure is around here when it comes to issues such as handle length (it's not a defect or poor work, it just isn't what you personally want). Some makers/retailers will accept returns for those kinds of reasons, others won't. Having read this thread about Mr Nealy, I doubt he'd accept returns even if it was an error on his part and not a simple mismatch between customer and product. I would probably just sell it on the secondary if you aren't able to make contact with him/get him to refund you. And it shouldn't be hard if there's no problems with it.
     
  15. Matthew g

    Matthew g

    12
    Mar 18, 2019
    Really nice work Very well-made knifes for self defense
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2019
  16. brancron

    brancron Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 14, 2011
    Interestingly enough, there's a multi-page article about Nealy in the April edition of Knife Magazine:

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    More photos of full article: https://imgur.com/a/6cLTbSC
     
  17. Thomas Linton

    Thomas Linton

    Jun 16, 2003
    In the mags all the children are above average. :cool:
     
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  18. Gastonknife

    Gastonknife

    Dec 15, 2008
    No kidding . Lol .
     
  19. Matthew g

    Matthew g

    12
    Mar 18, 2019
     
  20. Matthew g

    Matthew g

    12
    Mar 18, 2019
    How long did it take you to get a your money back?
     

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