Busse or Swamp Rat, what's the difference?

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pazzo

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relatively unfamiliar w/ these two manufacturers, and was wondering which is the upper end of the two both price/ quality wise. and are the two companies affiliated?

thanks
 
Busse Combat is the parent company of Swamprat and Scrapyard.
Scrapyard being the most economical, followed by the Swamp stuff.
The most expensive is the Busse line that uses the exclusive INFI steel.:thumbup::thumbup:
There is a Busse and Swamprat forum over under manufacturers.

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they are affiliated.

jerry busse owns/runs busse combat.

jerry's wife, jennifer, owns/runs swamprat.

jerry's brother, dan, owns/runs scrapyard.


each company is run independently of the other. scrapyard offers the least expensive products, swamprat in the middle, and busse combat the most expensive, all other things being equal.

each also uses different steel for their knives. infi, busse combat's proprietary steel, is generally considered the best of the three. swamprat uses sr101, and scrapyard uses s7. both are modified tool steels.
 
thanks guys ;)
steelnut, i was aware of the two forums in the manufacturers section, but wanted to post in a more general area :)

so how come either website has very little or no info/ pics on the line ups? (or does Busse only have the two knives shown)?

thx
 
pazzo said:
thanks guys ;)
steelnut, i was aware of the two forums in the manufacturers section, but wanted to post in a more general area :)

so how come either website has very little or no info/ pics on the line ups? (or does Busse only have the two knives shown)?

thx
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this is going to sound complicated.

bussecombat offers only one or two knives at a time. when you order, you custom tailor a knife with the handle/blade options. when the knives are ready to ship, usually 4-5 months after they are offered on the main site, you get charged.

bussecompanystore.com offers various busse knives that are either from the current line, a recently passed line, or specific to the store. the store is owned by idahoskunk, and is a separate entity.

swamprats main site has not been updated in some time. for available swamprat knives, check ratknives.com.
 
The whole thing is very strange and seems incredibly inefficient to many of us. This site is up, but you can't order this companies product here. However that site has last years info and can not be used to review that line, but you can go to a third party website and do that (or just ebay/google for one) etc. Given the stated relationships between the company owners, one presumes at least two of them see each other daily outside the workplace and the third probably at the family gatherings at least, if not daily. One or more of their websites indicates the three 'factories' share common work space/grounds and merely work different shifts. Is it the scrap yard web site that speaks of using left over steel from the 'other' company? No matter. The difference seems to be more about each owner wanting to put their own stamp on a product than about a genuine difference between the performance of the different products. That being said, there is no logical reason for them to not simply share an umbrella website listing the products of each line and list the prices (projected or otherwise) for each along with a web link for the order.
 
What? Who are you to dare to suggest practical, easy, and customer friendly alternative sales models for the various Busse entities?

Don't you know there is an entire Byzantine secondary market which exists solely to artificially limit supply of all Busse entity products, thereby creating numerous price gouging opportunities for amateur dealers? There is a keen third party interest in the current sales model of massive retail inefficiencies.

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Boats said:
What? Who are you to dare to suggest practical, easy, and customer friendly alternative sales models for the various Busse entities?

Don't you know there is an entire Byzantine secondary market which exists solely to artificially limit supply of all Busse entity products, thereby creating numerous price gouging opportunities for amateur dealers? There is a keen third party interest in the current sales model of massive retail inefficiencies.

[/]sarc
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oh crap, here we go again....... :rolleyes:
 
As I recall the Swamp Rat line was created with the intention of competing against the Busse line, it's hard to compete from the same website.

Also the Scrap Yard appears to be located in Texas, which would make running the business out the same office kind of difficult.

The two things that is constant is that all three companies use a heat treat protocall that other manufacturers balk at, and back up their knives with a warranty that is hard to match any where.
 
each company make the best knives in the world, they are so great that they can not be compared to each other
each company does something great in their own way and each company shoots other knife companys out of the water
and btw steelnut scrap yard made the street scrapper 4 out of infi
 
Boats, I think you just explained the marketing policy for the Wii. Clearly, Busse/Swamp Rat/Scrapyard is much more confusing, and seems to have even less rationalization.

I bought a Camp Tramp a few years back. Ordered, shipped received, less than 10 days. I don't understand why y'all are having so much trouble. :)
 
Next time I'll just leave off the sarcasm tag. Not even pointing out such writing with a sign works anymore. :rolleyes:
 
I thought the sarcasm anf fun-poking was clearly evident in Boats' post, and I didn;t even see a "sarcasm" thingy. Maybe I'm just sarcastic in nature so it's easily recognizable.
 
Boats said:
Next time I'll just leave off the sarcasm tag. Not even pointing out such writing with a sign works anymore. :rolleyes:
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sarcasm, yea, thats what it was, kay. Thanks for the clarification.
 
You got to be way old school to remember sarcasm. It was something we did to pass the time. Some of us remember being able to just pass the time, when school was out, the bike had a flat, and nothing was going on. Heck, a siren once a week was pretty hectic. Without sarcasm, we'd have had nothing to do.

With sarcasm, things could get real exciting fast. I remember sitting on the stairs at school and getting kicked in the head because I said "Excuse you!" to the class bully, or answering a teacher or parent with a really great twist to a normal greeting. Otherwise, we just tried to pass the time. There was a lot more of that than gas.

I guess ordering knives there is designed to spark some excitement now.
 
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