Camillus Carnivore FAIL

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Last year I picked up a Camillus Carnivore "Titanium Bonded" tac-tool imitation from Wal-Mart for $20-something. I didn't expect much for the price, but I thought it would make a decent light-to-medium-duty yard tool. I thought I was getting a small machete combined with a light chopper. That was my expectation, and has nothing to do with any advertisement Camillus may or may not put forward for this product.

Last year I trimmed the hedges with it. I used the hook for snipping low-lying weeds, and I sawed or chopped through a couple <0.5" branches. I used it and put it away wet.

Fast forward 8+ months, and I broke it out again for some yard work. It was still covered in dried sap from last year but showed no signs of oxidation. I was thinking they might be on to something here. I trimmed a hedge or two and started on cleaning up a branch I'd taken from a lodgepole pine last year. I chopped through a couple of <0.5" branches with no problem. Then, just for fun, I tried chopping on the main branch, which measured up to a "whopping" 3" diameter. The first strike sank about half an inch in, which I thought was respectable. The second strike broke the blade, sending a piece of shrapnel bouncing off my face just under my eye and the tip of the blade twirling back onto my thumb. :eek:

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Some blood was lost. I'm lucky it wasn't much, and even luckier the smaller blade fragment missed my eye. It was my good eye. The one I aim with. I'd be P.O.'d if I lost that one.

I'm posting this as a warning to others. Don't trust this blade. I don't think I abused it, and if failed dangerously. I've asked much more of other knives, and never experienced this kind of failure. I'm glad this happened in my backyard doing yardwork and not in the middle of nowhere where someone might actually depend on this knife. This was not a glancing or unusual strike, was against soft wood, and I don't have superhuman strength. I don't think a knife this thick should fail with this kind of use.

I'm disappointed Camillus. Tsk. Tsk. :grumpy:
 
Hey thanks for posting this. I have one of these I was going to take on our next camping trip. Now I am not.
 
I'm glad it did not go into your eye

Write to the maker and see what they suggest you do
 
I just messaged Camillus via their web form. I'll post their response.

I do not have the original box or receipt their warranty terms require.

Not sure I want a replacement anyway. I doubt I'd ever trust it and I'd be afraid to use it without safety glasses and thick gloves.
 
I wouldn't expect anything else...
Why would you buy such crap, when there are great, tested machetes? like ontario?
 
I actually bought mine to have a little fun cutting up some pineapples. It is great for chopping them up...... if not a tad overkill.
 
I can say it would be fine for cutting fruit. Just dont expect it to hack through anything even remotely close to solid.
 
Last year I tested one on scrub oak, including several one-inch branches & a downed five-inch trunk. I did not try to chop all the way through that trunk, but made a definite impression on it, and several more strikes than just two.
The blade held.

We see occasional photos of name-brand large knives that break in half doing similar things & people still buy more.
Disappointing here, yes, but as a light-duty implement I would neither condemn it totally nor try to get too much out of it.
Denis
 
Googled and found:

JacobMcShane 6 months ago
I have one and the blade broke in half. With pictures to prove it.&#65279; Not while prying, in fact I never had to pry anything with the Carnivore. After 2 e-mails with no response. I did finally get in contact with Camillus about the failed product. I am usually using a machete in places daily, so I don't need a product that is going to fail. If you are looking for something that will last, then spend the big bucks and get something nice, but this will do the job if you rarely need it. Just be careful.

Jeannie Sherwood 8 months ago
I purchased one at Walmart this past weekend. Out of the box it was quite dull, so before I could even try it out I had to put a new edge on it. Then I took it outside and quickly discovered that the knife must not be a full tang. Within five min. the handle broke&#65279; loose so I took it back and got my money back.

CAoperator723 8 months ago
2. The handle has come slightly loose, you could feel the blade moving&#65279; around in there as you chopped. The camoflauge on the handle has also worn away leaving a very light robins egg blue as the primary color now, not exactly stealthy if you ask me. The digger was a pain to use and resulted in many chips in the blade. The wire cutter could barely cut through 550 cord so I doubt it would do much on actual wire. All in all a poor piece for the backcountry, but maybe useful in a more urban setting.

f60w 9 months ago
mine broke the first chop. under the&#65279; handle scales. lame!

Video re catastrophic failure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QJyoGvEXPwA

And another that broke inside the handle. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVNp_wQ3EHM
 
Ontario
Condor
Tramontina
Martindale

There are so many more options then anything made by the new "Camillus".
 
I broke my Becker Tac Tool. I was hammering it through a log I was trying to split, using the back of a hatchet. I'd done that dozens of times before it gave out.
 
Anyone else tired of these old songs critical of Camillus knives? "They don't have their own factory anymore." "Their products are not made in the U. S. anymore." Probably true, but neither does Apple Computer and I hear they make some knockout products.

I have used a Camillus Carnivore for over a year now and I am very happy with it. It is so versatile I'm not always sure what to call it. It's a machete, and it's a long camping knife. If you are trailblazing through the woods, this is what you need. It whacks and chops through brush and trees. If you are only going to carry two knives camping, this should be one of them. It smashes, pries, digs, and cuts with ease. And on top of that, it's a terrific value. How much did you overpay for a different brand?

Umm...it doesn't chop through trees, it snaps when you do that.

And apple sucks now too.:cool:
 
The (used to be local) surplus store I always went to had Ontario machetes for 9.99 and sheathes for 2.99. That's a bargain, although they didn't have a coating from Battle Star Galactica.
 
Anyone else tired of these old songs critical of Camillus knives? "They don't have their own factory anymore." "Their products are not made in the U. S. anymore." Probably true, but neither does Apple Computer and I hear they make some knockout products.

I have used a Camillus Carnivore for over a year now and I am very happy with it. It is so versatile I'm not always sure what to call it. It's a machete, and it's a long camping knife. If you are trailblazing through the woods, this is what you need. It whacks and chops through brush and trees. If you are only going to carry two knives camping, this should be one of them. It smashes, pries, digs, and cuts with ease. And on top of that, it's a terrific value. How much did you overpay for a different brand?

I'm tired of seeing brand names that used to be synonymous with quality brought back from the dead by companies who have never seen a quality knife.
 
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