Case stainless steel sharpening

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Anyone else really dislike case's stainless steel?
I have no problems with my buck stainless or victorinox
But I just cannot get the tru-sharp stuff anywhere near where I am happy with it.

I know tru-sharp is several points softer than their cv and have to assume it's also the case (heh pun intended) in comparison to bucks or victorinox stainless

Anyone else just dislike the tru-sharp stainless or is there some trick I am ignorant of?
 
As far as I'm concerned, the whole learning curve with Case's Tru-Sharp Stainless, or other steels of similar makeup and hardness (Victorinox, etc.), all comes down to dealing with the burrs. Case's blades and the other similar ones frustrated me for some time before I figured that out. The ductile or 'bendy' nature of the burrs means they'll keep hanging on - and even become worse if the pressure used on the stone is too heavy. Same is true, if the stone itself is glazed, clogged or otherwise impaired in its ability to cleanly cut the steel without bending over the edge (burring).

I initially had a lot of trouble with burring when using ceramic hones with this steel. Ceramics are prone to loading up quickly if they're not kept clean while working. And they'll also punish results if the touch is too heavy in using them. Both of these factors will aggravate the burring issues. Same is true with other similar steels, such as Victorinox's blades.

My favorite approach these days, for Case's stainless, is to use a simple Fine India stone to set the edges. Finish on the same stone with an increasingly light touch, to gently abrade the burrs away without forcing the apex to roll over (burring). Then I refine further, and clean up any remaining remnants of burrs on the medium rods of my Spyderco Sharpmaker, using THE ABSOLUTE LIGHTEST TOUCH I can manage - I equate the pressure used with simply wiping dust from the surface of the ceramic rods using the blade's edge. Nothing heavier than that. Case's stainless blades take a wickedly sharp edge this way. And I do most of the follow-up tune-ups using the same medium ceramic on the SM. This routine has made these blades very simple to deal with, for me. And for what it's worth, I handle Case's CV and Buck's 420HC in exactly the same manner, also with excellent results. The slightly harder CV and Buck blades won't burr as much, and they tend to take a slightly finer finish (not quite as toothy) as the Case stainless when sharpened this way. But they still get exquisitely sharp and hold it well.

I have found that Case's Tru-Sharp takes and holds a medium-grit toothy edge somewhat better than it will hold a very polished edge. If polish is taken very far, with the included extra thinning of the apex, the steel's hardness falls somewhat short of being able to keep the apex from rolling or flattening too quickly in use. But it holds up better at a finish afforded by a stone like the Fine India (360-400 or so), and very, very lightly refined on the medium Ceramic.

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As with many factory blades from many makers, another thing to be aware of might relate to the edges being weakened by overheating during factory edge-setting or deburring. If the edge on a new knife seems unusually weak or unstable, a few resharpenings will usually remove that weakened, heat-damaged steel near the apex, after which the edge becomes more stable down the road.
 
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Try pushing the edge on the stone with light pressure, then strop with a dry: no micro abrasives or polishing compound applied leather strop, using light to moderate pressure. .
When I was taught to sharpen 60 odd years ago, I was taught by the four generations that instructed me (both sides of the family were unanimous in these two points, by the way) to always push the edge away from me. Pulling the blade edge across the stone produced a burr/wire edge. If you got a "🤬" burr/wire edge "you 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 up!"
When you strop, hold the edge a couple degrees higher than you sharpened to. E.G. if you sharpen to 10° per side (what I was taught to sharpen a knife to) strop at 12° ~ 15° Since there isn't any abrasives on the strop, you're not changing the edge angle stropping at a slightly higher angle, you're just working the burr/wire edge until it breaks off.
If you want, you can burnish the edge with red or green rouge, using another strop, at the angle you sharpened the edge to. I follow the leather strop with a heavy canvas strop (an old canvas Army/Navy/Marines/Air Foce belt works great) using greed rouge/polishing compound, or  Mothers white Mag Wheel Polish.
 
Yes, lighter pressure is the key to sharpening True Sharp Stainless.
They are actually really easy to get a sharp edge, once you get used to it... but I prefer their CV or 1095 steels.
 
Cases stainless does burr up and can flip flop while trying to remove.Its just abit of a learning curve.Original bucks 440 takes awhile to sharpen but great blades
 
I don’t care for it but I use it.

I usually use a soft Arkansas stone, and stone longer than I would need to with carbon steel. Maybe twice as long. Then I strop lightly. Either with plain leather or cardboard loaded with green compound. I touch up during use by stropping on my palm.

On thing I do that helps with the burr. Atleast in my experience, is (I always cut into the stone), but I do several strokes from the base of the blade to the tip, left the right sides. But I then do a tip to ricasso stroke. That puts the direction of the sharpening stroke about in an X pattern to the previous stroke. It also keeps from getting a burr only in the tip. This is my issue. I get burrs at the tip more.

I don’t care for the way stainless acts regardless of maker, buck or Vic or case. But I use it. So there.
 
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I like Tru-sharp just fine. However, it is one of the teachers you will meet while on your journey to learning sharpening. [Queen's D2 was a graduate school professor. 🤣]

I will skip the whole lesson plan, but basically I learned:
- Skip the Sharpmaker. Use Norton India or natural Arkansas stones.
- Don't use too much pressure.
- Strop on leather with green compound.
- Frequent touch-ups are better than full on sharpening sessions after letting them get really dull.
 
Reading through this thread reminds me of why it is so important to always have a knife and sharpening stone with you when you venture out into the woods. If you ever get lost, you just need to sit down and start sharpening your knife. Within 5 minutes, somebody will be along to tell you that you’re doing it all wrong…
 
Quick question, since strops were mentioned a few times: If I use a compound with my strop, can the knife be used for food prep or is this stuff generally hazardous if consumed?
 
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Never found CASE stainless very tricky at all, some of Queen/Schatt&Morgan's 420 has proved very difficult to edge though...

Others have already posted sage advice, all I do is run it on a diamond rod and then strop it, seems to produce an edge that will shave arm hair no problem, that's good enough for a small pocket-knife I feel.

As for the toxicity of green compound, don't know, but I do know I wash it off from the blade with hot water before going near foods.
 
Quick question, since strops were mentioned a few times: If I use a compound with my strop, can the knife be used for food prep or is this stuff generally hazardous if consumed?
Just treat the blade like any other used for food prep. Wash it as you'd normally do with any kitchen knife and it'll be as clean as it needs to be. A little dish soap & water on a rag or paper towel, to wipe the blade down. That'll do it. I usually wipe blades with a rag or a paper towel moistened with some Windex, after any of my sharpening or stropping activity. It handles oils & the waxes from compounds well and will leave the blade plenty clean enough for food use.
 
Just treat the blade like any other used for food prep. Wash it as you'd normally do with any kitchen knife and it'll be as clean as it needs to be. A little dish soap & water on a rag or paper towel, to wipe the blade down. That'll do it. I usually wipe blades with a rag or a paper towel moistened with some Windex, after any of my sharpening or stropping activity. It handles oils & the waxes from compounds well and will leave the blade plenty clean enough for food use.
Makes total sense! Thanks!
 
Quick question, since strops were mentioned a few times: If I use a compound with my strop, can the knife be used for food prep or is this stuff generally hazardous if consumed?
After wiping the blade after stropping (or oiling the blade/joints) there isn't enough to worry about.
 
I have a tougher time sharpening the factory bevel mistakes away. It’s so uneven and asymmetrical. I find a lot of my Case Tru-sharp dullness originates from areas where the stone is hitting the apex on one side, but not touching the apex on the other.

I wish they wouldn’t even bother with the secondary bevel and just let me do it.
 
I have a tougher time sharpening the factory bevel mistakes away. It’s so uneven and asymmetrical. I find a lot of my Case Tru-sharp dullness originates from areas where the stone is hitting the apex on one side, but not touching the apex on the other.

I wish they wouldn’t even bother with the secondary bevel and just let me do it.
And there's ALWAYS a "factory burr" that needs immediate attention after buying a new Case knife!
 
My "secret weapon" for removing the last traces of burr from Tru-sharp is an Opinel mini steel. When I know I've done a good job of sharpening but the blade still drags and snags when trying to make a cross-grain slice in the thinnest paper I can find, a few light strokes on a mini steel will take care of the problem. Victorinox makes a good mini steel too. (I've heard that there are other mini steels out there, but that most aren't up to the quality of the Opinel and Victorinox.)
 
I actually like it, but always finish sharpening with stropping on cardboard to pull the edge out. I actually don’t find a lot of difference between the CV and Tru-sharp doing this.
 
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