Cellidor SAK´s vs Alox SAK´s

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Greetings you all:)

Let me first tell you that I don´t have much experience with long use of cellidor SAK´s, since I´ve only used Alox so far.

Recently I bought a small Tinker and I just like the classic SAK look of this one.
However the knife and action does feel so much more filmsy than my Alox ones.
The knife itself is flawless with zero play, but I´m afraid this will change soon when I start using the little bugger. Especially the awl and phillips on the back.

I´m not a abuser or a mega hard user or anything, but I think that little Tinker will devellop play rather soon when using on contrary to my Alox Farmer or Bantam.

But maybe I´m wrong which I hope.

I hope you can help me out on this.

Thanks very much for reading:thumbup:
 
The construction of the SAKs with cellidor scales is very good. I have a few old pre-owned SAKs with cellidor scales, none of them have bladeplay. Also the Climber that I carried for a long time didn't develop any bladeplay and it was used every day.

The only SAKs that I own which do have a little bladeplay are the Victorinox Soldier 09 and the new Dutch army knife. Both have a little up and down bladeplay, but too little to be annoying. You don't notice it when using it.
 
Don't give it a second thought!

I had a tinker years ago, and used it very heavy. It stood up just fine to eveything I put it through. My only problem was that certain gun cleaning solvents and bug repellents would break down the plastic. I don't know what they put in the army issue mosquito repellent, but it you put it on, then touched anything made of plastic, the plastic disolved.

Maybe thats why the army issue pocket knife like the MLK knives, had stainless steel scales.

Carl.
 
I've used an 84mm tinker for 30 years in edc and as a Boy Scout leader and camp staff person. It is so old that the toothpick has an aluminum end and there is no hole in the awl, but there's no play at all! - one caution I have seen and will second: the celloid handles turn to jelly on contact with insect repellant and some other chemicals - but that aside they are replaceable. The knife itself is tight - I also have an executive model a 76mm that's about 40 years old and is in same tight shape. so don't worry about it - That knife will stand up to about all you'll give it aside from absolute abuse!
peace
Revvie
 
Small tinker is one of my all time favorit (along with sportsman)... lately its all that i carry in my pocket.... got zero problem with it... since i never abuse it and so far if you use it with common sense, you have nothing to worry about the small tinker.... and for its size, lightweight, tools selection and very comfortable to handle, its one of the best 84mm to own. (once again along with sportsman)

but for peace of mine, get another one as a back up so you could use that particular one without worry.

i love all my alox... my soldier and farmer are very sturdy.... but this lightweight small tinker is more comfortable for me to carry, besides, i always reach it for tweezer and toothpick...
 
My first SAK (a camper) had the cellidor scales. While it developed no blade play in use. The handle scales did come off in the pocket without abuse or misuse.

After that I have stuck with Alox handled SAK's
 
I've carried and used lots of saks and I've never had any of them loosen up except for the backside tools on a wenger backpacker II. You shouldn't have any issues with them loosening up.
 
wildmike said:
My first SAK (a camper) had the cellidor scales. While it developed no blade play in use. The handle scales did come off in the pocket without abuse or misuse.

After that I have stuck with Alox handled SAK's
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That's unfortunate, and unusual. Certainly shouldn't happen and I wouldn't let that one bad experience put you off carrying Cellidor scaled SAK.
 
My 30 year old Champion is fine. The scale corner near the can opener is nearly worn through. As stated above stay away from bug juice, open flames (thats a story for another time), and do not drop one onto rocks or concrete. I have not had one loosen up despite thousands of openings and closings. Once again, as already said, they can also be replaced. It would be interesting to see an Alox Champ thou.
 
Its true that cellidor got to be maintain and keep away from heat,corrosive liquid and hard drop.. The nylon scale solve those issue since its coming from the military models.. For edc,the cellidor is beautiful,easy to polish and work just fine.. For hard work you cant go wrong with alox and nylon handles.
 
I had the scales fall off where the snaps have broken after a few years of heavy use but even then the SAK didn't suffer any other problems. I could have replaced it, but unfortunately I lost that knife on one of my archaeological digs back in the 90s. Never had a problem with any others.
 
Thanks a lot you guys:thumbup:
I'm a lot more reassured now.
As much as I love my Farmer and such, you can't beat the ease of carry of the Tinker and the basic selections of tools.
As of now I'm gonna give the little bugger a try:)
 
Iyonk said:
Its true that cellidor got to be maintain and keep away from heat,corrosive liquid and hard drop.. The nylon scale solve those issue since its coming from the military models.. For edc,the cellidor is beautiful,easy to polish and work just fine.. For hard work you cant go wrong with alox and nylon handles.
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The nylon handles are also very scratch resistant. I got a Huntsman with nylon scales and some 108mm models. The 108mm models have an excellent grip too. If you can find such a model, get it. :-) Here in the Netherlands the old German army knife, which is a military variant of the Safari Trooper, can be found quite often. The newer Dutch army knives (Centurion, Dual Pro X) have nylon scales too.
 
Underneath the reed celidor they are very sturdy buildt. The metod of peening them together isnt so pretty and finetuned but gives plenty of strengt and its hidden under the scales. I have some green canvas micarta at home to make exshange scales on a climber but havent come to it still. I like the alox wery good as its strong and nice looking but I like the celidor for its warmer feeling in the hand.

Bosse
 
Harayasu,

You lucky dog. Finding original GAKs (GAK 1 or 2) here in the USA is a real challenge. Any of the 108s are scarce. Mausers are difficult, nevermind the Walthers. Safaris can be found, but the Fireman version is a hard one.
 
Yep, in my experiences the cellidor knives have been up for the job. I have used them for everything from cleaning a fish to tying a piece of paracord to the lanyard ring and lobbing it over a high tree branch. Great tools!
 
I do like my alox Soldier a great deal, but the cellidor models work better for me in a few respects: Alox handles can be down right uncomfortable to hold in cold weather, you can't get an alox model with the secondary blade which I really like, I like having the tweezers and toothpick, and the tiny screwdriver that fits into the corkscrew.

In Steve Dick's book "The Working Folding Knife" there's a picture of the Spartan he carried during his time in Vietnam and for many years after. That sucker really saw some active duty.
 
In my opinion, Alox knives age better with use. They are sturdier. And they look timeless.
If one is going to have ONLY one pocket knife for a lifetime, an ALOX model would a good choice you would not regret.
I had many Cellidor knives, but always come back to my Alox even though I has less tools on it.

(Wow I just bumped a 12 year old-thread 🙃)
 
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