Changing straps on Casio watches/watch forum

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Ourorboros

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I'm considering a couple of Casio Waveceptors right now, but I think I've seen the comment that Casio uses custom straps on their watches. Does anybody know if this is true? If so it rules one of the out completely since the other model uses NATO straps.
Also, I am new to the watch side of gear. Can anybody recommend a good watch forum or two?
 
Many Casio watches can only use a Casio strap; but Casio makes an incredible number of watches, many with standard lugs that work with standard aftermarket straps and bracelets. Look for something like this:

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It should be obvious from one side or the other.

Go to watchuseek.com and click on "FORUMS"
 
My sons mudman would not take a NATO band. It has four screws instead of two pins. It was not obvious from pictures. I thought NATO bands fit everything.

if you want analog. I highly recommend Bertucci. I love mine. It only takes nato bands. The “pins” are part of the case and cannot break. The knob is at 5 instead of 3. So it is very comfortable.
 
eveled said:
My sons mudman would not take a NATO band. It has four screws instead of two pins. It was not obvious from pictures. I thought NATO bands fit everything.

if you want analog. I highly recommend Bertucci. I love mine. It only takes nato bands. The “pins” are part of the case and cannot break. The knob is at 5 instead of 3. So it is very comfortable.
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If you're still interested, a bunch of places make adapters that fit the Mudman. If you Google Casio Mudman adapters, the first result (company initials are CC) works.
 
Replacing Casio watch bands can be a pain and usually means ordering online if you want the watch to look the same.
 
Alot of Casios have only 16mm or 18mm lugs and then the strap widens out, which is why NATOs don't fit well on them without adapters. As mentioned above though, there are a few companies that make adapters. One that is highly spoken of is jaysandkays, and they make adapters that fit up to a 24mm NATO. As for forums, check out the Casio/G-Shock sub-forum on watchuseek. Some great guys over there that are always glad to help.

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Thank-you all for your help. Stuff like this is when I wish everything had an industry standard that was adhered to like laptop sizes.
Piso Mojado Piso Mojado that is one of the watches I am considering.
 
WVA-M630B-3AJF and WVA-M630B-1AJF are Japanese domestic market Waveceptors, popular enough here so you can usually get a good price from Japanese exporters selling on Amazon and eBay. One has a black canvas two-piece strap and a black dial; the other has an OD green strap and a green dial so dark it looks black unless you hold it just right. Otherwise they are identical. You'll be replacing the strap, so go for the best price. I don't own one and I don't know for sure that the lug width is 19 mm. That is not a popular strap width, but it's the easiest of the odd numbered sizes to find. Be aware that the case is not 100% stainless steel: the buttons are plastic.

Casio's Lineage watches are another Japanese domestic market product, like Waveceptors but all metal and a little more expensive. LCW-M300D-1AJF is the most popular here and you can usually get a good price on Amazon or eBay. I own one and I'll post a photo tomorrow if the sun comes out. I've read that the lug width is 19 mm but I know for sure that it's 20 mm. I got out my ruler and checked.
 
Ourorboros said:
Thank-you all for your help. Stuff like this is when I wish everything had an industry standard that was adhered to like laptop sizes.
Piso Mojado Piso Mojado that is one of the watches I am considering.
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Casio Lineage LCW-M300D-1AJF, the next step up from the Japanese Domestic Market Waveceptors you are considering.

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Another JDM Casio with a radio-controlled movement that sets time and date from the National institute of Standards and Technology's radio station WWVB near Fort Collins, Colorado. For the extra money, you get an all-metal watch with a metal bracelet and two LCDs. You lose the second hand. (28 in the lower LCD is the second display.)

Stainless steel bracelets are a good option if you live full-time or part-time in the tropics. This bracelet is good enough to wear, but the buckle has only two micro-adjustment holes and getting a good fit is hit or miss. You could replace the buckle but you'd probably just replace the bracelet with a strap.

WWVB's signal does not reach New England, Alaska and Hawaii. We need a second station but that probably won't happen. The EU has two stations and Japan has three. China has only one, but it is centrally located and very powerful. Current production Waveceptor and Lineage watches can set time and date from all seven international stations.

You should be aware that President Trump wants to shut down WWVB. Funding was restored by Congress last year, but he is nothing if not persistent and it's safe to assume that he hasn't given up.
 
I'm just dipping into watches at the moment as gear, but before when I wore watches regularly I was metal straps. I don't remember loving them.
The full metal case is something I'd want over resin though. Two questions - what is the subdial? And would I be able to change out the metal bracelet for something else? Maybe a resin or black leather. I've never seen the conversion in an all metal watch.
 
Casio's Japanese domestic market watches come with a Japanese manual. If you can't read Japanese, go here:

https://world.casio.com/manual/wat/

Select the language you want, and on the next page enter the "module" (quartz movement) number engraved in a little box on the watch's case back. The module number of this watch is 5114 and you can download an English-language manual here:

https://support.casio.com/storage/en/manual/pdf/EN/009/qw5110.pdf

The sub-dial shows which function is active on your watch. For example, when using the stop watch function, the sub-dial hand will point left to ST. This watch has a lot of functions: stop watch, countdown timer, auto light, four alarms and a snooze alarm. You can manually set the time and date and adjust the position of the hands; and there is a quick way to switch between your home city and another. Check the manual and see if this is what you want.

This watch has standard lugs for a 20 mm strap or bracelet. 20 mm is the most common "man's" size of factory-made straps and bracelets, and every dealer has a big selection. If you need something extra long or extra short, the biggest selection is in 20 mm. Buy from a dealer who gives you two spring bars or will sell them to you cheap. I have never removed a steel bracelet without bending at least one spring bar.

You remove and install a standard strap or bracelet with a spring bar tool.

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The big fork is for leather and rubber straps; the little fork is for steel bracelets and buckles. Bergeon makes the best watch tools, but you don't need a $20 Bergeon spring bar tool: a $2 Chinese tool works just as well for one watch. Some dealers give them away. If you buy a strap or bracelet from a jeweler or watch maker, they will install it for you and resize a bracelet.
 
Thanks. It never occurred to be that there would be a subdial to highlight what function was being used.
Okay, so steel bracelet watches can take regular straps. I wasn't sure about that, it opens up a lot more options. It's tough finding the right combination of qualities in one watch.
 
Ourorboros said:
Okay, so steel bracelet watches can take regular straps.
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All the steel bracelets I've seen could be removed and replaced, but not all of them could be replaced with a standard strap or bracelet. Without getting into the universe of Casio watches, here as an example is my Vostok Neptune diver watch:

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This is called a "contoured" bracelet. They are always tapered and the non-standard lug arrangement makes the taper more striking. It also makes them hard to replace with anything but a duplicate bracelet. Vostok makes and occasionally sells two alternative straps for their Neptune watches.

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You could duplicate the first if you're good with tools, but my suggestion is simpler: don't buy a watch with a contoured bracelet if you don't want to wear the bracelet.
 
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