cheap steel sources?

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hey guys I'm a young blacksmith and knife maker so i don't have a lot of money to throw around, and i was wondering what places that are generally easy to find, have a lot of cheap or free steel for both messing around with blacksmithing (like mild steel) and also good high carbon steels for knifes like leaf springs etc. thanks so much in advance!!

David
 
Welcome to Shop Talk.Because you didn't fill out your profile, we don't know how to answer your question ... because we don't know where you are.

Any piece of steel will work for most blacksmithing projects. Scrap yards sell it by the pound. Lowes and Home Depot sell it in bins. Most welding shops carry some bar stock. Machine shops may give you some of their shorts and scrap.

Knives need a known steel in order to do a proper HT. The steel suppliers we mainly use are Aldo - New Jersey Steel Baron, the knife supply companies - USA Knifemakers, Texas knife supply, Jantz, etc. Buying a length (or several) saves money on shipping. BUying just enough to make one or two blads may look cheaper, but by the time you add the shipping, it raises the cost per knife a good bit.

The cheapest ones available in a normal size town will likely be O-1 and W1 or W2 from Fastenal.

If you fill out your profile so we know where you are, someone may offer to give you some of their surplus steel .. or at least tell you where steel an be found in your area.

Now, for things that are free:
For blacksmithing, leaf springs are good. Some folks make knives from them, but you don't really know what steel they are ( and it's almost a sure bet they are NOT 5160 like you will bread older books and hear online). Coil springs from cars and trucks will make OK knives and are fine for blacksmithing projects. Other free things for blacksmithing and knives are old bed frames, old farm equipment (rakes, harrows, axles and springs, etc.)
 
hey thanks so much for responding so quick! i just edited my profile. this was helpful and i will check this stuff out!
 
hey guys I'm a young blacksmith and knife maker so i don't have a lot of money to throw around, and i was wondering what places that are generally easy to find, have a lot of cheap or free steel for both messing around with blacksmithing (like mild steel) and also good high carbon steels for knifes like leaf springs etc. thanks so much in advance!!

David
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Free advice:
Get a good paying job.
Spend all of your money on tools and supplies.
Die, if you live long enough, with next to nothing.

Hoss
 
There you go, you are in McLean and I am in Norfolk. There are also a lot of guys up your way. I-81 is lined with them. I would recommend you join the Shenandoah Valley Knife Collectors Club. There are a lot of makers in it, and they have a great show every year the first weekend of April. Pop's is always there and has great supplies and some steel, as well as some other suppliers. I am tere, too, with handle material and knives. I hope to see you there.

I had forgotten old files. Treat them as W2 as far as HT goes (most are W1/W2 or very close to that).

BTW, I have been a Goldsmith for 40 years. If you need anything ... or are looking for equipment .... give me a shout by email. I probably have three shops worth of stuff in storage. Once the new shop is done this spring, all that I don't use in it will get sold or given away.

As to the cost of steel - always remember that it is usually the lowest cost part of the knife. Quality steel can help you make a quality knife, but no matter what your skills are poor steel won't ever make a quality knife.

As to Devins comment, it is true. I probably have $50,000 to $75,000 in tools and such, and am getting ready to build a new $50,000 shop. But ,even though I have a couple hundred pounds of forging steel, it probably didn't cost more than $500 total. I will die still owning a lot of that steel. If I am lucky, I won't die broke, too.
 
wow thanks for all your guy's help in answering my question so quick! i will definitely take all your advice and tips on what to do. :thumbsup:
 
Flea markets and swap meets, craigslist, etc... are all good places to look for old files, wrenches, hammer heads, etc... that you can practice forging on. Scrap yards may be an option for any number of kinds of steels, as are fab shops, who somethings sell (or even give away) the "drops" or cut offs that are too small to do anything with. I have a fab shop a few miles from me that has a yard full of all kinds of tube, bar, some rounds, and a little bit of flat. They charge at or just below scrap, depending on what it is.

Now, all that being said, if you're looking for something to make into knives you can use or sell, I'd buy known steel and be done with it.
 
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