Nathan the Machinist
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This pre-order is now closed to new orders, thank you.
Please post only one time to this thread. Please do not make multiple posts or chat. This is my order list and it needs to stay simple and uncluttered or it isn't going to work.
I estimate it will take about six months for this pre-order to start to ship and possibly longer. I'm only committing to ship before end of next year. If you need something faster this might not be for you.
These are some pictures of what it doesn't look like:
^ Those are prototypes. The production version may have a few more minor tweaks.
Also. If you would like to special order a heavy duty version of the Medium Chopper (an HD Medium Chopper, the Not-A-Heavy-Chopper heavy chopper) you can order a Heavy Duty Medium Chopper here. It's a thicker version with thicker stock (.250"), taller grinds, smaller fuller and more meat left behind the edge for you knuckle dragging meat heads who break shit. The Heavy Duty Medium Chopper weighs 23.2 ounces, almost exactly in the middle between the standard MC and the 12" Behemoth. Both the standard and HD version have the same bevel grind geometry we're using on the Competition choppers, only thicker for durability. This is a shallow S grind that bites deep, pops a chip well and considering how deep you can bury it, it has minimal binding.
Jo wrecking some 1X4s with her 10" racing chopper with the same bevel geometry (though thinner):
She won that race largely due to her unprecedented performance in the 1X4's. I'm not saying that buying an engineered chopper will make you cut like Jo, but it won't hurt.
They're made of CPM 3V at HRC 60.5 with the Delta heat treat protocol that I believe is the finest heat treat for this material available anywhere. This is an exceptional knife with a combination of toughness and edge retention that will blow your mind.
The hand grip works as a large camp knife when held towards the front with good balance and dexterity. When held towards the back it fully fills the hand and offers control and reduced hand fatigue for extended hard chopping. Like the HDFK before it, the handle on the new MC is the product of a long iterative process of testing and development. It will impress you.
It has a forward lanyard hole as used in competition cuts and a hidden rear lanyard hole.
Specs:
Delta 3V, 60-61 HRC, .220" thick at ricasso (the HDMC is .250")
Total length 16"
Blade length 10"
Weight 21.1 oz (the HDMC is 23.2 oz)
Edge angle 20 DPS
Grippy 3D machined scales in micarta or TeroTuf
Black oxide treated 18-8 stainless steel fasteners
Hidden lanyard
These are all field grade, as machined and stonewashed with tool and grind marks.
Price includes a very good kydex sheath
$495 in canvas micarta, natural or black
$505 in black linen micarta
$515 in OD green micarta on black liner
$525 in natural color burlap micarta
$525 in black unbuffed TeroTuf on a black micarta liner.
$595 in antique micarta on a black liner
There is an excellent kydex sheath included in the price. Your choice of TekLok or drop loop.
Shipping in the USA is $12.
"Make mine Heavy Duty" add $75 (this is not a better knife than standard, it is simply more robust)
Consider ordering yours "unbuffed" for a better grip that's also super ugly.
Talk to Jo if you want multi color rag micarta (not ideal for this knife), hard ebonite rubber on a liner, or soft rubber inlay over natural micarta. The rubbers are experimental and should not be your only set of scales for your knife, their longevity is unknown.
Note on the antique micarta: This is very old surplus that I bought up. I don't know who made it, though Westinghouse was the big name in the business back when this would have been made. It is quality material that machines well, polishes evenly and is more thoroughly resin impregnated and harder than material I can find available today. It is proven to be "good stuff". The material is natural color but has aged into a deep brown throughout most of the thickness from oxygen, but there are some areas that are lighter in color, so it is streaky and multi color. It's actually a really cool look IMO. I will book match the pieces as I saw it up and make sure the two sides of the knife are a good match, but you get what you get. If you want light color, multi color or solid dark you can request it and if we have it I'll try to match up people's request with available scales, but understand this color is naturally occurring and varies and you get what you get, probably mostly solid dark brown.
Here is the order process:
I'm going to take full payment in advance and hold your money. While I think this is usually a bad policy, so I don't generally recommend it, I've been around a while, my shop is an incorporated business established in 2001, so I'm probably not going anywhere. I will ship your knife when it's finished. Once your order is confirmed there are no refunds, changes or cancellations.
We're going to order a custom run of 3V for this and this big knife is too large to gang up across two mills and run as a continuous process so, I don't expect them to start to finish up for about six months. They will ship as they're finished in the order that they are ordered in. As I'm building them, some of the knives made will go to this pre-order and some will be sold in regular sales. This means you will see knives being sold while you're waiting for your knife.
When you place your order it will sit on the order thread for a day or more before we process it. In that time frame you can change your order. So, if you wake up and decide you want one instead of two, or you want micarta instead of TT you can edit your post. Once Jo contacts you (you need email or PM "turned on" or send contact info to her) and you finalize your order it is finalized. Please don't add changes after-the-fact because it is this sort of thing that has made lists unmanageable in the past.
Jo will contact you to determine your payment preference. Options are check, cash, MO and paypal. You will also need to confirm where you want it shipped. This will be done by Jo the Machinist private message or email.
This list will be up for a few days.
If, after a while, you don't hear from us and we don't hear from you, something is getting lost in the interwebs or spam filters. So if you haven't confirmed your order and received your invoice after a week or two you should contact Jo at carothers knives at gmail dought com.
Jo, Bo, Mark and I appreciate all of your continued interest in our work and your support.
Thanks for looking.
Please post only one time to this thread. Please do not make multiple posts or chat. This is my order list and it needs to stay simple and uncluttered or it isn't going to work.
I estimate it will take about six months for this pre-order to start to ship and possibly longer. I'm only committing to ship before end of next year. If you need something faster this might not be for you.
These are some pictures of what it doesn't look like:
^ Those are prototypes. The production version may have a few more minor tweaks.
Also. If you would like to special order a heavy duty version of the Medium Chopper (an HD Medium Chopper, the Not-A-Heavy-Chopper heavy chopper) you can order a Heavy Duty Medium Chopper here. It's a thicker version with thicker stock (.250"), taller grinds, smaller fuller and more meat left behind the edge for you knuckle dragging meat heads who break shit. The Heavy Duty Medium Chopper weighs 23.2 ounces, almost exactly in the middle between the standard MC and the 12" Behemoth. Both the standard and HD version have the same bevel grind geometry we're using on the Competition choppers, only thicker for durability. This is a shallow S grind that bites deep, pops a chip well and considering how deep you can bury it, it has minimal binding.
Jo wrecking some 1X4s with her 10" racing chopper with the same bevel geometry (though thinner):
She won that race largely due to her unprecedented performance in the 1X4's. I'm not saying that buying an engineered chopper will make you cut like Jo, but it won't hurt.
They're made of CPM 3V at HRC 60.5 with the Delta heat treat protocol that I believe is the finest heat treat for this material available anywhere. This is an exceptional knife with a combination of toughness and edge retention that will blow your mind.
The hand grip works as a large camp knife when held towards the front with good balance and dexterity. When held towards the back it fully fills the hand and offers control and reduced hand fatigue for extended hard chopping. Like the HDFK before it, the handle on the new MC is the product of a long iterative process of testing and development. It will impress you.
It has a forward lanyard hole as used in competition cuts and a hidden rear lanyard hole.
Specs:
Delta 3V, 60-61 HRC, .220" thick at ricasso (the HDMC is .250")
Total length 16"
Blade length 10"
Weight 21.1 oz (the HDMC is 23.2 oz)
Edge angle 20 DPS
Grippy 3D machined scales in micarta or TeroTuf
Black oxide treated 18-8 stainless steel fasteners
Hidden lanyard
These are all field grade, as machined and stonewashed with tool and grind marks.
Price includes a very good kydex sheath
$495 in canvas micarta, natural or black
$505 in black linen micarta
$515 in OD green micarta on black liner
$525 in natural color burlap micarta
$525 in black unbuffed TeroTuf on a black micarta liner.
$595 in antique micarta on a black liner
There is an excellent kydex sheath included in the price. Your choice of TekLok or drop loop.
Shipping in the USA is $12.
"Make mine Heavy Duty" add $75 (this is not a better knife than standard, it is simply more robust)
Consider ordering yours "unbuffed" for a better grip that's also super ugly.
Talk to Jo if you want multi color rag micarta (not ideal for this knife), hard ebonite rubber on a liner, or soft rubber inlay over natural micarta. The rubbers are experimental and should not be your only set of scales for your knife, their longevity is unknown.
Note on the antique micarta: This is very old surplus that I bought up. I don't know who made it, though Westinghouse was the big name in the business back when this would have been made. It is quality material that machines well, polishes evenly and is more thoroughly resin impregnated and harder than material I can find available today. It is proven to be "good stuff". The material is natural color but has aged into a deep brown throughout most of the thickness from oxygen, but there are some areas that are lighter in color, so it is streaky and multi color. It's actually a really cool look IMO. I will book match the pieces as I saw it up and make sure the two sides of the knife are a good match, but you get what you get. If you want light color, multi color or solid dark you can request it and if we have it I'll try to match up people's request with available scales, but understand this color is naturally occurring and varies and you get what you get, probably mostly solid dark brown.
Here is the order process:
I'm going to take full payment in advance and hold your money. While I think this is usually a bad policy, so I don't generally recommend it, I've been around a while, my shop is an incorporated business established in 2001, so I'm probably not going anywhere. I will ship your knife when it's finished. Once your order is confirmed there are no refunds, changes or cancellations.
We're going to order a custom run of 3V for this and this big knife is too large to gang up across two mills and run as a continuous process so, I don't expect them to start to finish up for about six months. They will ship as they're finished in the order that they are ordered in. As I'm building them, some of the knives made will go to this pre-order and some will be sold in regular sales. This means you will see knives being sold while you're waiting for your knife.
When you place your order it will sit on the order thread for a day or more before we process it. In that time frame you can change your order. So, if you wake up and decide you want one instead of two, or you want micarta instead of TT you can edit your post. Once Jo contacts you (you need email or PM "turned on" or send contact info to her) and you finalize your order it is finalized. Please don't add changes after-the-fact because it is this sort of thing that has made lists unmanageable in the past.
Jo will contact you to determine your payment preference. Options are check, cash, MO and paypal. You will also need to confirm where you want it shipped. This will be done by Jo the Machinist private message or email.
This list will be up for a few days.
If, after a while, you don't hear from us and we don't hear from you, something is getting lost in the interwebs or spam filters. So if you haven't confirmed your order and received your invoice after a week or two you should contact Jo at carothers knives at gmail dought com.
Jo, Bo, Mark and I appreciate all of your continued interest in our work and your support.
Thanks for looking.
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