Closest steel to INFI

Coduhhh

Coduhhh

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I'm pretty new to Busse, and I'm sure this has probably been asked before, but I was wondering what the closest equivalent to INFI is and in what ways does that steel fall short to INFI?


-Cody
 
Coduhhh said:
I'm pretty new to Busse, and I'm sure this has probably been asked before, but I was wondering what the closest equivalent to INFI is and in what ways does that steel fall short to INFI?


-Cody
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Performance-wise I'd say SR-101. Unreal performance but not stainless. :thumbup:


Jerry. :D
 
Coduhhh said:
I'm pretty new to Busse, and I'm sure this has probably been asked before, but I was wondering what the closest equivalent to INFI is and in what ways does that steel fall short to INFI?


-Cody
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Adamantium is close... :eek: but it lacks strength in comparison to INFI... :D

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Jerry Busse said:

Performance-wise I'd say SR-101. Unreal performance but not stainless. :thumbup:


Jerry. :D
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i have few small ones of busse , i never had a chance to prove the sthrengh of those .
i am really like the design of SWRks , i wanta see a d-test do by noss , can you donate one to him ?
thanks

dingy
 
Some folks have said that INFI is very close to A8 steel, but the published metallurgy makes it clear that is not true. fyi, what Busse calls SR-101 is, as far as we know, standard 52100 steel, but with a really great heat treatment. (SR- 77 is S7) That seems to be Jerry's forte, wringing out the absolute best out of a given steel by virtue of a superior HT.
 
When you are new to Busse it is possibly fair to highlight that INFI is not the best steel in each and every aspect. There are tougher steels out there, there are more rust resistent steels out there, there are steels with better edge retention and there are steels that are easier to sharpen. For most of us INFI just represents the best compromise between all these criteria.
 
Thanks for the info everyone. I was just trying to get an idea what to expect considering I put in my order for one of those Basic 10's a few days ago. Also I had a friend of mine that had been looking at Busse's and can't decide whether or not to order one due to his lack of knowlege on the steel.
 
haha he ordered the kool-aide but didn't drink yet! he'll be a raving lunatic like the rest of us in 8-18 weeks sure enough . . . .
 
If we are talking straight out performance, jerry is right SR-101 is probably closest and might even hold an edge over INFI in the edge holding dept, but definitely not edge toughness or overall toughness. SR-101 is a modified 52100(has extra % of another micro-constituent in it). I'd say SR-77 would be closest in overall toughness. CPM-3V would be the closest in toughness outside of the busse family along with whatever company might be using A-8. A-8 is actually the closest steel to INFI if you just take into account chemical composition and not overall performance. Busse steel gets it's overal performance as much from HT process as it does from the composition of the steel and probably more so. I doubt that any other company invests as much time as Busse in the HT protocol. And that is where the difference lies.
 
CPM 3V is the closest steel to INFI performance wise. With a proper heat treat it can do anything INFI can but 3V by a custom maker or fherman is just as expensive as INFI.

5160 is similar in toughness but won't hold an edge as long and is not stainless.

SR101 is amazing and is my favorite steel. From my experience it holds an edge close to as well as INFI at half the cost.
 
Cobalt said:
If we are talking straight out performance, jerry is right SR-101 is probably closest and might even hold an edge over INFI in the edge holding dept, but definitely not edge toughness or overall toughness. SR-101 is a modified 52100(has extra % of another micro-constituent in it). I'd say SR-77 would be closest in overall toughness. CPM-3V would be the closest in toughness outside of the busse family along with whatever company might be using A-8. A-8 is actually the closest steel to INFI if you just take into account chemical composition and not overall performance. Busse steel gets it's overall performance as much from HT process as it does from the composition of the steel and probably more so. I doubt that any other company invests as much time as Busse in the HT protocol. And that is where the difference lies.
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Cobalt has been here since 1998. I've not been here nearly as long as him but can say that he is most certainly correct and we would all be well served to listen to his wisdom on this point.

So many folks on BF get hung-up- on which steel is best that they forget the most critical component: The heat treatment. Jerry Busse has developed a heat-treatment protocol that could, very likely turn a dog turd into a cutting instrument.

Move beyond the steel composition and look toward heat treatment protocols. That is where you will find performance and innovation in blade steel. Read some Ed Fowler, since Jerry hasn't written anything (but should...ahem... hint, hint...). ;)





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