Colapsable buckets for boiling water

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hey guys, trying to improve my BoB and im looking for multi use items. I was wondering if anyone knew if the collapsable buckets made of nylon or similar materials were suitable for boiling water using the stone boiling method. this would be a backup for a metal pot but i believe in the rule of twos. Thanks for your input
 
My guess would be that you would want something quite durable and heat resistant. Something like PVC coated canvas instead of just coated nylon. My thought is that while almost any material would work, do you want to be in a position where even a tiny mistake can put a hole in your bucket. The thinner the material, the more likely a rock might be able to contact the surface enough to melt it, since the steam is going to be pushing the water away from that point. another option would be one of the hemp/linen bags since you could boil that by hanging it directly over the fire.
 
No, they will melt. I'm sure a sawyer mini is much more in line with ENE/BOB bags as a fire gives away your position
 
For additional water boiling capacity, maybe just an another small pot to your kit. If you stuff the pot with things you already have in the bag, it adds almost zero volume to your pack?
 
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I've seen collapsible silicone rubber buckets. Range sells 'em here for bait at a couple of quid each. With patience one of those would work.

I wouldn't entertain anything like that for your purposes. Boiling with hot rocks is gonna suck, big time. You really want the container to be able take direct heat. Then there is the bulk and weight. Look to catering trade heavy foil dishes. Fold and stamp flat.
 
Any reason you cant use a solid metal container? A Vargobot is 1l, wide mouth, and you can use it to store stuff in as a watertight container in a bob.
Titanium version is super light I love them so much I have more then one :)
 
Seems like a bad way to get your water. Could you walk us through your water system and perhaps give a bit more general info on your BoB? Essentially, what are your design parameters and, how/when you would use it...
 
the collapsible buckets are really supposed to be used for collecting the water and moving it from source to camp. You can use a clear plastic bottle to sterilize it as seen here called SODIS:

[video=youtube;FnjO-y8-Crw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnjO-y8-Crw[/video]

Keep some empty CLEAR water bottles around to make that happen.
 
Phoynix said:
Any reason you cant use a solid metal container? A Vargobot is 1l, wide mouth, and you can use it to store stuff in as a watertight container in a bob.
Titanium version is super light I love them so much I have more then one :)
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I have a metal container for boiling water. I just like the idea of redundancy in my gear. Hence having both a tomahawk and a heavy knife that can work as a chopper or a slicer.
 
sideways said:
Seems like a bad way to get your water. Could you walk us through your water system and perhaps give a bit more general info on your BoB? Essentially, what are your design parameters and, how/when you would use it...
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I basically focus on redundancies while still trying to keep it to the basics. My main water container is an alpine stowaway as well as a canteen cup. I wouldn't necessarily be using the bucket for boiling but i was more wondering if it would be harmful to do if it was necessary.
 
It probably is harmful. To your health and the health of the bucket Instead of boiling you might filter your water or use water purification tablets.
 
Hope giving advice on your BOB isn't considered rude with out you asking but I can see ways to greatly improve it just on the wood processing side and weight.

Points I see as problem.
1.Knife for chopping and hatchet are both rather heavy and do the same job in the same way.
2.Chopping makes noise that on still days/nights with high condensation in the air can carry miles.
3.Chopping is a very high energy expenditure, highest calorie burn you can do under most circumstances.
4.If you are hurt such as a cracked rib chopping could become near impossible, and trying to chop with just one hand/offhand is dangerous, reduced accuracy for most people using off hand.
5.Chopping when you are tired/exhausted/rushed is likely to result in an accident.
6.Its unlikely a knife big enough for chopping can fit into the axe head to batton and break apart a broken handle thats stuck for whatever reason(swollen from moisture or colder then when the head was attached so its shrunk on tight)

Personally I would drop the heavy knife, go one not over 6 ounces(yes you can get a knife that light or lighter that is tough and trustworthy)... and if really worried about wood processing carry a folding saw. IF very cold climate I would carry a saw blade and make a bow or buck saw if I need to do alot of wood. To carry saw blades use a piece of electrical conduit heated and flatten it as a sheath, or you can make into a circle to fit the larger saws as a sheath so it fits on the back of your pack as a circle, just cut out one side and you slide the blade in teeth first so the flat side is facing out and wrap some ties/wire/string around it to keep the blades coming out.

You can then take an extra metal container with the saved weight and likely still come out ahead and still have the same redundancy as you wanted with the ability to boil water in another container.

Just my thinking on what I would do and why.
Feel free to completely ignore it... most people do ;)
MAKnifenut said:
I have a metal container for boiling water. I just like the idea of redundancy in my gear. Hence having both a tomahawk and a heavy knife that can work as a chopper or a slicer.
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Nesting titanium pots is my preferred answer if I carry two pots.

Snow Peak
Evernew
Toaks
Vargo

How much does your current pot weigh?
How much volume do you want or need?
Do you need the pot to have special features?
Does your stove need a special pot?

If you really need more than one pot, you probably don't need both fry pans or lids. You can boil water in the fry pan lid also.

You can get a 28 ounce (volume) 4oz (weight) stainless mug for about $7 from stp. (I'll remove the reference to stp if it's against the rules.)
 
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