Cold Steel canes and such anyone?

[OrenG]

I'm looking into buying a Cold Steel cane for my early morning walks, not to use as a cane but to fend off loose dogs.

Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm stuck between the African and the Irish walking stick and I don't know which one is better or worse.

 

[THE PUNISHER]

are these the ones with a knife?

 

[OrenG]

are these the ones with a knife?

Nope, these are the hard plastic ones.

African Walking Stick

Irish Blackthorn Walking Stick

City Sticks:

Walk about stick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy3SUlQ21rk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGyeu9IVx5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPNua_SL_fo

 

[Esav Benyamin]

Oren, I have an African, and that knob is really too big for a comfortable grip -- and my hand isn't small. As a club, it's a great piece of gear, though.

Bushman5 had the Irish walking stick, and found the brown insert separated, broke off.

 

[OrenG]

Oren, I have an African, and that knob is really too big for a comfortable grip -- and my hand isn't small. As a club, it's a great piece of gear, though.

Bushman5 had the Irish walking stick, and found the brown insert separated, broke off.

Well with the hexagonal ball knob I can understand that, looks awesome for defense but horrible to use as a cane.

I figured that the insert thing would crack, given the more parts you have the more likely one is going to be a problem.

So then I guess that rules the Irish out, I really don't like the city ones, and the walk about seems a bit too expensive, isn't as indestructible.

 

[SamuraiDave]

I have heard good reports from canemasters.com

If I had a issue I would get one in a heartbeat.

 

[Jarhead90]

I have the original Walkabout stick & I love it.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

I have a Purpleheart Walkabout. It is as close to indestructible as you'd need. More so than the polypropylene sticks.

I also have two Canemasters, which are my regular walking sticks. The best.

I also have a Mendowood stick, which is awesome, but I really need a crooktop for daily use.

 

[The Government]

EDIT: when interpreted, the law states that a cane weighted by lead is illegal, so long as these are weighted by another metal, they should be legal.


CA penal code 012020 (I think that is right) explains the legality of weighted canes. I now think you are in the clear.

Sorry, I got exited

 

[Esav Benyamin]

Which canes are illegal??

 

[OrenG]

Those city stick canes are illegal in california. The legal term is that a "weighted" cane is prohibited. It is written in the same code that states which knives are illegal I believe. I would read up on it if I were you. There may be room for interpretation, but CA usually interprets these kinds of thing in the extreme.

CA penal code 012020 (I think that is right)

Just something to think about, I am not trying to tell you what to do. In fact I really like the pistol grip model.

Yeah the city canes, but not the African or walkabout.

I'll look into a walkabout, but I may have found a "solution" I'm working on reinforcing and fashioning a "dog stick" out of an unpainted wooden broom handle (for my uses it's basically a big wooden dowel), I think I'll either lacquer it, or paint it, and add a rubberized grip.

 

[The Government]

Here is my reference and a quote:


. 12020 (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following
is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
or in the state prison:
(1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the
state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives,
lends, or possesses any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable
firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a
firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which
contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or
carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst
trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any
short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any
leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol,
any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge
knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice
handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon
of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy,
sandclub, sap, or sandbag.


For More info look here: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=6067757525+5+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve

 

[OrenG]

Here is my reference and a couple quotes:


12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following
is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year
or in the state prison:
(1) Manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the
state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives,
lends, or possesses any cane gun or wallet gun, any undetectable
firearm, any firearm which is not immediately recognizable as a
firearm, any camouflaging firearm container, any ammunition which
contains or consists of any flechette dart, any bullet containing or
carrying an explosive agent, any ballistic knife, any multiburst
trigger activator, any nunchaku, any short-barreled shotgun, any
short-barreled rifle, any metal knuckles, any belt buckle knife, any
leaded cane, any zip gun, any shuriken, any unconventional pistol,
any lipstick case knife, any cane sword, any shobi-zue, any air gauge
knife, any writing pen knife, any metal military practice
handgrenade or metal replica handgrenade, or any instrument or weapon
of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy,
sandclub, sap, or sandbag.


For More info look here: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=6067757525+5+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve

Alright, well as long as it's not leaded then it should be fine. I can understand outlawing leaded canes since you don't need lead in your cane to help you walk.

But hard polypropylene or wood canes should be fine.

Unless California decides to outlaw tree branches...

 

[The Government]

Alright, well as long as it's not leaded then it should be fine. I can understand outlawing leaded canes since you don't need lead in your cane to help you walk.

But hard polypropylene or wood canes should be fine.

Unless California decides to outlaw tree branches...

Edit: You may be right, I just found this:

(17) As used in this section, a "leaded cane" means a staff,
crutch, stick, rod, pole, or similar device, unnaturally weighted
with lead.

It seems that the code does specifically state that if lead is the added material it is illegal, so we can assume that any other type of metal used to weight a cane is therefore legal to possess.

I think I might buy one:thumbup:

 

[Bushman5]

Nope, these are the hard plastic ones.

African Walking Stick

Irish Blackthorn Walking Stick

City Sticks:

Walk about stick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy3SUlQ21rk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGyeu9IVx5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPNua_SL_fo

right off the bat, the CS blackthorn is complete and utter GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!! mine broke at the head, and CS FAILED to honor a warranty. I broke the second one i was given by a friend, SAME SPOT (head). Again CS failed to warranty it.

the african is nukeproof, the walkabout is nukeproof, the city stick id nukeproof.

 

[Bushman5]

Well with the hexagonal ball knob I can understand that, looks awesome for defense but horrible to use as a cane.

I figured that the insert thing would crack, given the more parts you have the more likely one is going to be a problem.

So then I guess that rules the Irish out, I really don't like the city ones, and the walk about seems a bit too expensive, isn't as indestructible.

nope, the African is VERY comfortable to hold and use, and it is nukeproof. I have beat mine on concrete over and over, it has never failed. It got run over by my buds jeep , still unbroken,

:thumbup:

 

[Bushman5]

I have a Purpleheart Walkabout. It is as close to indestructible as you'd need. More so than the polypropylene sticks.

I also have two Canemasters, which are my regular walking sticks. The best.

I also have a Mendowood stick, which is awesome, but I really need a crooktop for daily use.

WHOA ESAV, where did you score a Purpleheart walkabout? I WANT!

 

[Esav Benyamin]

A long time ago. Not a comfortable grip with that pear-shaped head. I tried to trim it to a balltop, but it's so hard, I just laid it aside.

 

[Steel Talon]

FWIW

There are other options than buying a "brand $ name" readily recognized as battle canes...

Livestock canes are solid hickory run about ten dollars at most feed stores you can cut them to size and customize. Cut the crook into a "duck bill" for hooking, and sand in several finger grooves along the shaft.

It's fairly easy to place a brass harness hain as a handle on a straight cane. They are solid brass and have a brass ball that fits the palm nicely and will break cinder blocks.

Crepe myrtle branches make very nice shafts.

 

[maverick3981]

Go for a CS Sjambok instead.