cold steel sjambok

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i own one of these ( the black i`m guessing shorter one , ive never bothered to measure it)

can anyone see this as useful for outdoors work , eg hiking , camping , survival?
what do you think of cold steels claim as a good defense against snakes?

and yes i know the opinion of cold steel on this forum , thanks
 
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They're excellent. Good against wild dogs, too. Two-legged problems that don't have guns in their hands...
 
zombie_killer said:
i own one of these ( the black i`m guessing shorter one , ive never bothered to measure it)

can anyone see this as useful for outdoors work , eg hiking , camping , survival?
what do you think of cold steels claim as a good defense against snakes?

and yes i know the opinion of cold steel on this forum , thanks
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Think about it this way; would you want to have someone snap that sjambok at you?:D

I woulden't doubt if you could snap a snake in half with a good shot from a sjambok.
 
I don't know if they will cut a snake in half or not, but they will definitely break the back of a snake. Done behind the head and it's basically a done deal. It can still bite if you mess around with it, however.

Good against dogs! Morons on two legs!

Back around 1999, I had a friend on here at Bladeforums who drove down from another state. We were both in Filipino Martial Arts at the time. He looked at one in my hand and said, "What are you going to do with that plastic piece of sh*t?" I gave him about 15% power on the outside of his left arm, glancing downward on the side of the upper arm. I thought he was going to let a chunk loose. :D

His knee on that side game way for a minute and he had a tremor go through him, training knife in his right hand hit the floor.

They hurt, really bad.
 
Its a very handy tool for tackling snakes and dogs. I have one thrown in the back of my car, at times, late at night, some pesky dogs forget their manners :)
 
I've had to use one on a dog before when it tried to rip my dog's throat out. A single blow across its back and it jumped ten feet in the air and ran. I have both one of the older and newer models. My older model is modified with a bicycle grip, metal pommel to aid in tip velocity, and a wood screw screwed down flush into the tip to give it a little extra "snap." The sound it makes when you give a good swing is EVIL. :eek:

The new ones are a bit long and too thick in the handle for my liking. I haven't gotten around to modding mine though.
 
Love the screw in the tip idea - I've got all three models of the older ones and I use squash raquest tape and paracord lanyards. Love the XL version!

The newer ones looked too thick and slow - but I still wouldn't want to be hit by one!
 
Daniel L said:
Love the screw in the tip idea
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Thanks! I got the idea from "Scourge of the Dark Continent: The Martial Use of the African Sjambok" by James Loriega and James Keating. It really works nicely for making the tip more lively. Let's you do quick snapping strikes much easier and with less motion. :)
 
My mom carries one when walking. There are a few dogs on the route she walks. They have never been a problem but she just wants some type of protection. Oh, she also carries a GLOCK 30.
 
Don Rearic said:
They're excellent. Good against wild dogs, too. Two-legged problems that don't have guns in their hands...
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what Brother Don said!

love my CS sjambok. Clears tall grass and weeds better than a machete. EXCELLENT for the scum that frequent the street here.
 
Newt Livesay used to offer a stiffer synthetic sjambok he called a Whoop Ass 1 (WA1) stick. I think he turned the line over to someone else who is referenced on his website. I have a couple and I like them better than the CS version. Like Don, I spent a good deal of time in FMA and they are very natural for me to use. I have whacked brush with them and they will trim green stuff along a trail with ease.

Sjamboks like the WA1 concentrate impact force on such a small area that they can sever flesh almost as well as a dull machete (but not a sharp one, needless to say). Of course, they don't have the weight of a machete to cut really deep. For outdoor use, I'd take a machete instead.

DancesWithknives
 
Well, +1 for Africa then. I use a sjambok that was hand cut from a hippo hide. Still getting it pliable and soft so oodles of Dubbin used and still needed but once done ...... a full power blow will cut about 1 to 1/5 inches into soft flesh/skin.

Perfect for snakes as it gives you reach. It will not cut a snake in half but will break it's back.

Works great on feral dogs and still used as a crowd control weapon by riot police here ;)
 
One of my friends who was a surgical missionary in Africa long ago had one in rhino hide. He returned to New York and was carrying it when a guy pulled a knife on him. He said you could easily hear the bones of his knife hand cracking from the impact.

Unfortunately, it was stolen some years later.

DancesWithknives
 
great article on renal system failure after a severe sjambok whipping.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1279914/

as an instrument of torture the sjambok is quite horrific. On the other hand as a defensive tool that same injury mechanism is very useful. It takes but ONE hit to get street persons trying to jack you to make them back off instantly.

my main use though is clearing ferns and over hanging brush
 
The sjambok certainly had an ignominious history in the slave trade, but I guess you could say similar things about a lot of weapons.

DancesWithKnives
 
Aubrey said:
Well, +1 for Africa then. I use a sjambok that was hand cut from a hippo hide. Still getting it pliable and soft so oodles of Dubbin used and still needed but once done ...... a full power blow will cut about 1 to 1/5 inches into soft flesh/skin.

Perfect for snakes as it gives you reach. It will not cut a snake in half but will break it's back.

Works great on feral dogs and still used as a crowd control weapon by riot police here ;)
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I figure there's nowhere an American could get one, is there? :D
 
I wouldn't mind using one on the cows that were out here in the highway on the way to work today :(
 
The Newt Livesay WA1 sticks were originally developed as cattle sorting sticks, if I recall correctly. I think they would be perfect for clearing cows.

DancesWithKnives
 
DWK2 said:
The Newt Livesay WA1 sticks were originally developed as cattle sorting sticks, if I recall correctly. I think they would be perfect for clearing cows.

DancesWithKnives
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that's kind of like using a bazooka to get rid of flies IMHO. overkill.

i like sjamboks - we sell them in fact, but i prefer the plastic-coated bike cables, which always pass scrutiny while giving similar flexible-weapons advantages and being good for something else.

vec
 
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