Cold Steel Voyager Series

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I've had these knives for over a year now, so I suppose that makes me ready to opine on them. By now these knives aren't anything new, but whatever.

Some common attributes for the whole family:

-Tri-Ad locks:
One of my favorite locking mechanisms since I like lockbacks, and this functions and feels like a "super lockback". It gives a lot of confidence and peace of mind - no worrying about damaging the lockup unless you're intentionally trying to break it or are being plain stupid. I've done some stupid stuff such a throwing them into trees, full power stabs into wood, and heavy chopping on hard branches, and lockup was not affected in any noticeable way. On the model I gave by far the most abuse to (4 inch), I can't detect any up and down movement whatsoever - holding by the tip of the blade and really trying to wiggle that sucker. Nothing. I find that incredible given what I put that through. However, on the smallest model, there is, and has always been, a bit of vertical blade play. This knife came that way from the factory, which is out of the usual. Even with the tiny bit of play, it feels like a little tank and I have complete confidence in it because the locking surfaces are so large. With a liner or normal backlock the play would be unacceptable for me (I don't like play), but it just "feels different" for whatever reason on the Medium Voyager. The Tri-Ad strength is not just for stupid stuff, either. An example would be chopping thick brambles out of the way - I wouldn't like to try this on many knives even if they could take it because it could be rather hard on them. With the Tri-Ad it's child's play and I don't think twice. By the way, the Large and Medium appear to have exactly the same lock - the Medium just has components 0.5mm thinner. The XL has a significantly larger stop pin but I have not taken it apart to check the inside.

Inside of Vaquero showing the lock:
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-Thick handles:
Made of Grivory with aluminum liners. They are rounded and feel comfy in the hand. They have aggressive texturing but the location of it has never irritated my hands. The thick handles are comfy in hand, but in the pocket they just plain suck. Eyeballing it, the Large is about 0.60 thick, the XL and Medium would be +0.5 and -0.5 mm respectively. This rarely bothered me since I like to carry my knives in my jacket pocket, but for those who like their knives thin...

-Terrible clips:
Worst clips ever. Short, with pressure mimicking hydraulic presses, and over an aggressive texture to boot. No fun at all. The clips can be modified with a pair of pliers - I took mine off and bent it and it worked fine, but would probably be a bit too loose for some. Other methods involve smoothing the grip with sandpaper or epoxy, or even a temporary duct tape fix. Again, the clips didn't bother me much because I carry mostly in my jacket - most users here would have more of an issue with this.

-Good thumbstuds:
I like them. They were large, give good traction and never dug into or injured my thumbs. They were also easily removable thanks to a slot.

-Smooth deployment:
All three knives were very smooth in opening thanks to bronze phosphor bushings. Very nice. The larger the blade, the smoother it seemed. Be careful when drop-closing the XL.

Large finger groove (on Large and XL):
-I don't like the big index finger groove on these sizes. When I grip the knife in a hammer grip, my three other fingers have a secure purchase, but the large groove leaves my index finger "floating in mid-air". When holding the knife in that grip, I would prefer it if there were no large groove. It is, however, good for a grip with the thumb resting on the spine.

Fit and finish:
-All were quite good with no irritating or unexpected flaws apart from the slight vertical play on the Medium. Blade centering on all was decent, no troubles.




From smallest to largest:

Voyager XL (clip point):
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The blade length on this is listed as 5.5", but it actually measures about 5.3". That kind of irked me, not that I cared about the exact measurement, but just that it smacks of laziness when a company doesn't bother to list the correct dimensions for its products. Anyways, this is a very large knife, measuring over a foot overall. Opening the knife is very satisfying - inertia opening is ridiculously easy (note this can be a bad thing depending on where you live), and conventional opening gives a large "thwack!" The blade is big and thus makes big cuts. It is 4mm thick but the height of the blade and the full flat grind means it still slices very nicely. It feels very light for its size. The bad part is the handle - such a large blade requires an even larger handle. The gripping part is actually straighter than the handle on the 4-inch Voyager. I found that this made it less comfortable to hold because of the large index finger groove ("choil"). It didn't seem to work as well as on the 4-inch version. It also has two finger grooves at the back and holding it here with the last two fingers in the grooves seems relatively comfortable and secure. The large handle is the knife's biggest drawback. It sticks out the back of my hand for almost 3 inches and just feels unwieldy. There are a number of grips you could take on such a large handle but none of them feel quite right. I feel this knife is more of a novelty or conversation piece, but it's still fun to have around and a good deal for under $60. At times I've seen them running for under $50. Strangely, the tip on the XL clip point is much thinner than on the Large Vaquero... it's the same thickness as the tip of a full flat grind Endura.

Large Voyager (Vaquero):
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My favorite size. Still quite a large knife. Mine is a Vaquero because I liked the aesthetics. This blade shape cuts well and has quite a pointy tip. However the upswept tip isn't as nice to use as something lower and I find the entire blade too curvy both in use and in sharpening. I wouldn't even recommend this blade shape because it's a chore to sharpen - I usually like sharpening knives, but this upswept and recurved shape is a royal pain, and I had to reprofile it as well. However this model (and the Medium Vaquero too) is apparently out of production due to lack of sales - if you want one, grab one now. The handle feels great to hold with a thumb on the spine. For most normal uses the "thumb on spine" grip works great and is very comfortable. It is comfortable in reverse grip, too. When considering forward hammer grip, the index finger groove doesn't bother me as much on this knife compared to the XL because it feels more natural to choke back a tiny bit and avoid it. When trying the same on the XL it didn't feel as secure or natural. Also, on the Vaquero, it feels good to choke up and use the space created by the guard and ricasso as an impromptu "50/50 choil". This may not work quite as well on the clip-point version, but it would be do-able.

Medium Voyager (tanto):
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This size is a bit too small for my hands. It still feels good, but it's a bit squished. The index finger groove is not an issue for me on this knife - it's very shallow compared to the others. This knife is much too thick-handled for its size, and it also doesn't open or close as easily as my other two models, especially when unlocking the Tri-Ad lock. This may be in part due to less purchase on the handle making it harder to depress the lockbar. On the plus side this did give a great impression of a "little tank" when I first held it. The short blade and the massively strong lock are quite cool, and given its short blade length there would be even less leverage on the lock than the larger two models (which seem to have no problem with that themselves). This is definitely not the most convenient knife, so in my opinion someone looking for a light EDC would be well-advised to pass it over (but someone looking for an affordable mini-tank should definitely get one). The tanto blade shape... I don't like it. I don't like to be worried about damaging the subtip when cutting things, and the point is thicker and doesn't penetrate as well as the other two blades. The subtip is just a bother. It does have one advantage, however - when slashing things the sharp subtip makes it act somewhat (somewhat) like a wharncliffe, because the bottom edge is essentially the same shape. This can help it cut into things quite easily, more so than a curved surface. I could see the potential application for self-defence and dealing with clothing, etc. Some people talk about how the American tanto aids "snap cuts" but I find that absolutely ridiculous when talking about a folding knife. Overall I don't think any perceived benefit is worth the overall annoyance of the blade shape, but each to their own. The high hollow grind cuts very nicely, seems thin behind the edge and gets very sharp.



When I bought these the Medium was about $35, the Large was under $45, and the XL was just over $60 (and only because the clip point cost $10 more than the tanto or Vaquero options). I think that's an excellent value and these knives should definitely be mentioned alongside the RAT-1 and Tenacious.



They do have some issues - the main points against them are that they're bulky, and the clips suck. However these are ridiculously strong and reliable knives for a pittance, they are very well built, and are just reliable "do anything" knives. The Large was my constant companion for a year or so and it definitely passed its test with flying colours. I really like the feeling of not worrying about damaging my knife's lockup. I almost never do dumb stuff or abuse my blades, but the extra peace of mind "just in case" is very nice.




Consider one.
 
Good stuff, G Dog. I'm a fan of Cold Steel generally, and the Voyager lineup (old and new) specifically. Cold Steel properly takes some grief for their goofy meat bag execution videos, but they make a fine product at a reasonable price. And the Tri-Ad is most awesome. $47 (shipped) for a large Voyager is quite a bargain, especially relative to the competition.
 
I'm with you on the Voyagers. I bought mine about 10 years ago for $40 at a gun show. It has the VG-1 steel, which I think is one of the best steels I've ever used. I don't know if they still use it or not, but I think it is a very underrated steel. I've used mine pretty hard, also, and still no lock rock. To avoid the appearance of shameless self-promotion, I won't embed the video, but here ( http://youtu.be/p3HFSY9uf1Q ) is the link to a video I did with the Voyager, and only one throw made it into the video, at the very beginning, but I threw that thing hard, upwards of 100 times just that day alone. Didn't even faze it. Probably one of the best values I've ever had in a knife.
 
I got a medium voyager vaquero for less than $20 recently and it was my first Cold Steel knife. I am impressed with the brand, although I wish they would make a voyager with a 3.5" blade. The 3" medium is just a tad too small, and 4" large is too big for me. I did have some difficulty like you mentioned, namely that the lock is hard to depress to close the blade, but it has worked in well. I think the clip is great though, have had no issue with that.
 
Personally, I hate the ads, but hey, they sell a ton of knives, so I guess it works.
But I love my Cold Steel knife (mini AK-47). The first one I had was messed up, so I sent it back. But the new one was perfect. (And now that I have disassembled it, I could have fixed the first one :)). It's great. It is made very well, has generously thick G-10, and the steel is thick. The AUS-8 kinda sucks for edge retention, but resharpens with ease and gets very sharp. Lately, I've been using mine as a beater, and it takes abuse with stride. I dropped it the other day on pavement, and bent the tip. :( it looked like crap at first, but fixed easy.
I can't really think of anything bad to say about it, and would be confident enough in its quality to purchase another.
I should also mention that when it was sent in for repair (they exchanged it), turnaround time was 2 weeks on the dot (I live in NE NY), and they were friendly on the phone.
Heck, I can't say anything bad about the knives or the company. :thumbup:
 
First and foremost, thank you for the outstanding, comprehensive review.

I share most of your thoughts regarding he Voyager series. I own a large clip point Voyager and XL tanto voyager.

They are, without a doubt, the best "beater" knives for the money, surpassing the Tenacious, Rat-1, Flash II, and other popular low-cost models.

Thanks again for the great review.
 
Thanks for the great review, Goosey! I have found my assortment of Voyagers and other Cold Steel offerings, to be well designed and manufactured. The TriAd lock has to be experienced to be fully appreciated, in that it inspires a confidence that is a step above other lock designs.
 
Thanks for the review.

I have been debating on the purchase of a Large Voyager Clip Point for a long time. I have the Medium Clip Point Voyager and I love it for under $50 (I think I paid $35 shipped). Outstanding lock, good blade shape, tough handle, ergonomic, grippy, and I even like my modified pocket clip. One complaint is that the grip is a little too short, for even my smallish hands. I want something larger, thicker, longer-grip for a "woods/beater" knife. The large seems perfect. For some reason, I just haven't done it yet. I just have many knives that are so tough - I am not wearing out or breaking the stuff that I already own :) I think I will eventually buy it this year.
 
I have done a lot to beat up my Voyager and it is better than new (silky smooth opening now). One of the very few designs I would trust to practice back-cuts with on something other than newspaper. The handle thickness is just right outside of the pocket but definitely bulkier than what most are used to. I am a big fan of the tight, strong clips....no picking out of the mud or running away. You definitely want the tanto of this or the recons (or recon spearpoint) if you want to pry with the tip.
 
I have quite a few CS knives.

The Triad lock is really a fantastic lock.

I have the old Recon1 with the "ultra" lock? and the new triad lock too.

I wish they would release a flat ground version of the Recon1 clip point.

The blade grind on the voyager series is more appealing to me.

Also, the lack of black finish. I have no need for the Teflon.
 
Thanks for the great review. I really liked seeing the inside of the Tr-Ad lock. I hadn't seen that before and didn't really understand how it was superior to a standard back lock. Now I do.

I have been meaning to grab one of the newer/better Cold Steels for a long time. I had a Voyager for a while and thought it was under-rated. Seemed almost -- but not quite -- up to the Spyderco Endura or the Benchmade Griptilian. The new ones seem like they might be as good or better.

I have had a couple of other stinkers from Cold Steel, though.
 
I like them. I'm a fan of big folders, so I own XL versions of all 3 designs...I also have a large Vaquero(fully serrated) that I got a good deal on($30 counting shipping) just for variety.

Good review...and spot on about the clips, that's my biggest complaint about them. Without doing SOMETHING, they're pants shredders.
 
I've never had a problem with Cold Steel clips damaging my pants. And I like the lockup of the Tri Ad lock more than any other form of lock. I do not have any of the newer Voyagers, but do have an old Vaquero Grande that I fitted a clip to, as well as a Black Rhino and Large Espada. They all see frequent carry.
 
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