coldsteel indian war club in California

[generallobster]

Does anyone know the answer to this: is the coldsteel indian war club legal to own in CA? I ask because apparently the penal code states it's a felony to own a blackjack/baton/sap but I'm not sure if this applies to concealing it or just possessing it.

 

[CWL]

Legal to own, not to carry. Don't know how you'd "conceal" it. I think that if you carry a big plastic "war club" it would be pretty easy for any LEO to show intent.

Lots of people own various clubs, sticks, batons, etc. As a practitioner of FMA, I own at least a dozen sets of batons.

If you need a club for some reason, what's wrong with a softball bat in the car along with your mitt and a pair of cleats...

 

[generallobster]

well I just want one to smash stuff with, but I don't want one bad enough if owning it gives some da the discretionary power to charge me with a felony

 

[Zero_Time]

well I just want one to smash stuff with, but I don't want one bad enough if owning it gives some da the discretionary power to charge me with a felony

Nah, there's a few items that are not legal to OWN in cali, but those are only the more exotic cinematic ones: sword canes, nunchucks (believe there IS a dojo exception), shurikens, shobi-zues, etc. The billy clause is just about carry. Plenty of guys I know in California who are very careful about laws have all sorts of stuff lying around the house...

Go for it in the home. Unless it's appeared in an awesome martial arts movie around the late 70s/early 80s, it's generally legal to own.

Zero

 

[TOM1960]

Does anyone know the answer to this: is the coldsteel indian war club legal to own in CA? I ask because apparently the penal code states it's a felony to own a blackjack/baton/sap but I'm not sure if this applies to concealing it or just possessing it.

Cold Steel, Inc. is located on Seaborg Avenue in Ventura, CA. As a knife expert and martial arts practitioner as well as a businessman, CS president Lynn C. Thompson knows full well what the weapons laws are in CA. He would not sell anything that would not be able to be legally owned in that state. He offers/used to offer butterfly knives and sword canes, but these were sold out of his offices in Texas and Arizona. This is plainly stated in his catalogs. He has other items that would be universally legal to carry on the person or in a vehicle, including a nice selection of hardwood and polymer walking sticks. "Indian War Club" is not what I would carry in a vehicle in any state, especially my own home state of Massachusetts. It would be too obvious to a LEO that it is being carried as a weapon. The Assistant District Attorney who prosecutes your sorry ass in court would undoubtably bring the Cold Steel literature about the item to court, proving that you carried it as a weapon and ensuring a conviction and a permanent CORI criminal record for a felony weapons charge. In the home, that is another story. It might be a comforting item to keep beside the bed for home defense, but I use a 12-gauge Remington 870 pump-action shotgun for that purpose!

 

[Smash05]

Cold Steel, Inc. is located on Seaborg Avenue in Ventura, CA. As a knife expert and martial arts practitioner as well as a businessman, CS president Lynn C. Thompson knows full well what the weapons laws are in CA. He would not sell anything that would not be able to be legally owned in that state. He offers/used to offer butterfly knives and sword canes, but these were sold out of his offices in Texas and Arizona. This is plainly stated in his catalogs. He has other items that would be universally legal to carry on the person or in a vehicle, including a nice selection of hardwood and polymer walking sticks. "Indian War Club" is not what I would carry in a vehicle in any state, especially my own home state of Massachusetts. It would be too obvious to a LEO that it is being carried as a weapon. The Assistant District Attorney who prosecutes your sorry ass in court would undoubtably bring the Cold Steel literature about the item to court, proving that you carried it as a weapon and ensuring a conviction and a permanent CORI criminal record for a felony weapons charge. In the home, that is another story. It might be a comforting item to keep beside the bed for home defense, but I use a 12-gauge Remington 870 pump-action shotgun for that purpose!

Your mistaken about weapons laws in MA. Unless you were otherwise committing another crime, no prohibition against clubs.

 

[glistam]

Your mistaken about weapons laws in MA. Unless you were otherwise committing another crime, no prohibition against clubs.

The OP is referring to CA and not MA, which Tom more than covered in detail.

However regarding MA, I believe this is correct. Per Chapter 269, Section 10, there is a rather large list of weapons, but club-like weapons such as billies are not mention until the final part. This part indicates that possession of such a weapon is only considered a crime when arrested by warrant or if carried while committing a breach of the peace.

whoever, when arrested upon a warrant for an alleged crime, or when arrested while committing a breach or disturbance of the public peace, is armed with or has on his person, or has on his person or under his control in a vehicle, a billy or other dangerous weapon other than those herein mentioned and those mentioned in paragraph