Colt 1908 "Vest Pocket" .25 automatic?

tyr_shadowblade

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Hi.

I was recently offered an old Colt 1908 .25 with nickel finish and white plastic grips in Excellent condition and I am thinking it over. It belonged to the guy's aunt and probably has less than 100 rounds down the pipe. He even has the original box.

I'm not a collector, but it is really tiny and shiny and has a grip safety and I can get pearl or ivory grips for it.

Cons are it seems like a PITA to strip down for cleaning and supposedly these guns have a reputation for striker tab breakage resulting in spontaneous discharge.

Anyone have any experience with the 1908? Any estimates on possible value? Someone talk me out of this.

Thanks.
 
The Colt 1903 and 1908 series pocket guns (along with the even-smaller Baby Browning from FN) were what now seems almost incomprehensible---namely, pocket guns that were made every bit as well as their larger counterparts. Finely machined forged components, hand-fitted, and beautifully finished, these guns came out of an era of master gun makers who took a whole hell of a lot of pride in their craft. Oh, sorry, I'm supposed to be talking you out of it... ;)

As far as the cleaning goes, it really isn't all that terribly hard to strip them down, but then again it normally isn't necessary for basic care, either. I seriously doubt you're going to be running these on any IDPA circuits, and it will probably be a very long time before you get 1,000 rounds through it. When you do have to clean it, remove the grips, pull your slide back, and blast the thing out with gun scrubber (a pressurized, fast-evaporating cleaner that will remove any deposits of carbon, powder, or dirty oil---you're removing the grips because while it will never hurt metal, the stuff can discolor some plastics, and NEVER get it on finished wood), and after about two minutes when that has evaporated, squirt some oil in there and put your grips back on. I bet I have put more rounds through tiny Colts and Brownings than all but a freakishly small percentage of the world's population because they're just fun to shoot, and challenging as hell to shoot well, but it CAN be done.

The breakage you describe is certainly something I've heard of as well. All I can tell you is that I've never experienced one, and I've probably put 5k rounds through these cute little guys. That said, if you're actually going to carry the thing, I'd either find a good gunsmith near you, or if there isn't one, send the thing into somebody like Cylinder and Slide and have the thing checked over.

One other thing to note---if you have meaty hands, you need to either make a concerted effort to hold low on the grip or wear gloves, because the slides will come right over the top of your hand and their little edges are sharp.

As to value, honestly that's very tough without looking at the thing. One person's "almost mint" is another person's "85%" and it just really gets tricky. If the grips are original, and the finish is original (they LOVED to re-nickel guns to cover up pitting back in the day) and the condition is as you describe, the value could be anywhere from $650 to well over $1000. Don't pay any attention to the figures listed in "The Blue Book of Gun Values" as it's a decent source for specific information regarding serial numbers, years of manufacture, etc. but doesn't keep up with current market prices at all. Colt in general has been climbing in value for the last fifteen years, and that doesn't seem to be appreciably slowing down.

Basically, they're neat as hell, and a whole lot of fun to shoot. Not necessarily the ideal medicine for stopping a charging rhino, but beats the hell out of your fists alone. :)

Edit to add: OH!!! Almost forgot, do not ever use any kind of solvent (gun scrubber is still fine) on that nickel finish. Hoppes No. 9 is a great product, but is not the friend of plating.
 
Dude if you don't want it, I'd take it!
 
From the pic, nickle appears to be all there, but it is scuffed and scratched from pocket/purse carry. Guy said his son "didn't want it." If I got it it would probably live in my desk and occasionally be carried as a boot gun. I'm broke but the guy says he'd swap it for my stockpile of 9mm ammunition. So, cool little impractical .25 or all my 9mm ammo. I remain conflicted.
 
Well, yes, there are heavier hitters out there. At the same time, I always hope that my desire to prove my testosterone levels to fellow knife knuts never drives me to the point of turning my nose up at a nice Peanut pocket knife just because it isn't a Battle Mistress. ;) Of course, to be fair, my .25s represent less than 1% of my handgun battery, so they're just fun. As a primary weapon...yes, close to my last choice. :D

Point is: get it, keep it, and watch it appreciate. If anyone had told me fifteen years ago that those $165 Colt Official Police revolvers that were hanging on the wall at Larry's would be bringing $600-700 now... And, since it's not mint, you can enjoy the tiny craftsmanship in the meantime. Not like a couple hundred clean-primered FMJs are going to drive the value down any.
 
Check out gunbroker listings. People will quote prices for guns, but the real value is what someone is willing to pay for it.

Most of the 1908 Vest Pocket pistols that have bids are going for $300 or less. Sure, you will see them listed for a lot more,
but are they selling?
 
Depends where you are. Gun shows move a lot more old/collectible guns than the online sources do, as personal inspection is usually desired. Most '08s were carried as pocket guns (really was from an era before "collecting" was very commonplace) and as such do not go for as much. On the other hand, near-mint Colts (which the OP's gun doesn't sound like it is from reply #5) of any stripe easily climb in value, and quickly.
 
IMHO, gun show prices are not realistic. Prices are usually highly inflated. I don't even bother going anymore.
I have been in the gun business for a bit over 15 years and see what stuff sells and what sits. "Vest Pocket"
.25s are not a hot seller.

Folks tend to get excited when they see a gun for sale. I have learned to take a breath and think about it before
jumping on a "deal".

A Colt 1908 in .380 is whole different story. Nice ones are a hot seller.
 
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No doubt, their fan club is small, but it exists. As to gun show prices, they're 90% unrealistic, but if you get there early, there's almost always at least a couple guys who have a thing or two outside the norm. I too try to exercise control in gun buying, though must relate that one of the most painful events of my gun-loving life occurred when I was looking at a Winchester 21 in 16 gauge at a show in Texas. It was before the days of cell phones, so I'd gone into the lobby for a few minutes just to put in a shout to the bank to make absolutely sure that my pending purchase could be absorbed safely (it was a good buy for a nicely engraved 21, but it still wasn't cheap!) and it sold WHILE I was on the phone. Came back and saw a guy leaving the table with it--felt like I was going to cry! Granted, making sure you can afford something before buying it is never a bad thing, but damn that stung. I would DEARLY love to find the very 380 you mention, if you happen to have one laying around. Just saying... ;)
 
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I would rather have something that isn't a .25 ACP.

Well, yeah, I can understand that. It has been said that shooting someone with a .25 ACP is equivalent to stabbing them with a phillips head screwdriver -- only you can do it from over 10 feet away repeatedly.

I worked as a night watchman at a luxury car dealership in one of the worst gang infested ghettos in the country for about 5 years and worked as a process server for another 3 years which took me into the worst neighborhoods in Denver, Aurora, and Lakewood, including the housing projects, on a daily basis. I rotated between 2 guns during that time, one being a .22 WMR NAA mini revolver and the other being a .25 ACP Beretta Jetfire. Both were adequate for my needs. All I needed in those situations was the confidence that if someone decided to kill me they weren't going to get away with it. I had no intention of arresting anyone or engaging in a prolonged gunfight. Most of the time the confidence that comes from having a gun at your immediate disposal will give most people second thoughts about messing with you. If that doesn't work, showing it to them usually does. If you actually need to use it they tend to be very accurate and lack of recoil allows you to take multiple follow-up shots very quickly.

That being said, I like this gun because it is shiny. And if I'm going somewhere I'm concerned about possibly needed to use a gun I'll take something heavier. I may carry it in my boot occasionally, but that's about it.
 
I'd say get it. Only because I'm into nasty hideout weapons like I suppose you are.
 
I'd say get it. Only because I'm into nasty hideout weapons like I suppose you are.

My girlfriend thinks my durachromed Titan is "adorable." 1908 is probably smaller and shinier.

"Nasty" was my old Cobray .410 single shot derringer. Ugly, scary, and vicious. I was actually scared to shoot it.
 
Well, I saw some better pics of the 1908. Nickle finish looks to be in Excellent 95+ condition. White plastic grips may be a bit stained. Supposedly less than 100 rds down the pipe. Guy said he posted it for trade offers last year and he turned down 600 cash.

He wants about $450 worth of 9 millie ammo, a custom knife that goes for $175 new, and $200 cash. I told him $200 was all I had and I needed $20 for beer and sammich, and that I needed to hold onto a couple boxes of 9 millie and he said that was fine.

So, $180 cash, $400 worth of 9mm, and a knife I paid a little over a hundred bucks for. Does that sound like a reasonable deal or am I getting buggered on this?
 
I'd jump on it. Pocket guns just aren't made like that anymore... Well, maybe the Seacamp ;)
 
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