Combat daggers recommendation

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So I was looking for a good modern looking combat dagger and I can't find anything that would fit my needs. What I'm looking for Is a knife with a pretty thick handle, great balance point a decent steel and with a some weight on it. I'm new to the forum but not new to bladed weapons world. Most important thing for me is good balance point and some weight as I'll be using this knife for tricks and training, so I don't care if it's sharp or not I'm gonna dull it anyway. Basically I'm looking for something like this:http://http://www.unitedcutleryknives.co.uk/united-cutlery-special-agent-stinger-ii-dagger-shoulder-harness Great knife highly recommend you buying this knife if you want to learn knife manipulation. Aus 6, shoulder harness, great balance point and its pretty heavy too. waiting for recommendations :)
 
I don't understand the "tricks or training" part.

"Balance" is only important in a dagger if you are going to throw it.

The whole point of a dagger is a sharp point geometry, so they are not suitable for training. Cold Steel and others make plastic replicas of specific knives so you can train with them.

"tricks" might involve throwing, so for throwing a dagger should be fairly long, heavy handled and stout pointed, as the length helps slow down the rotations, and the heavy handle makes it "stick" with more authority.

Daggers are not hugely "in" these days, so most of the ones I consider good are discontinued models: One I like is the SOG "Desert Dagger": Originals are an expensive Ebay proposition, but it has some cheap derivatives, still offered by SOG, that are similar (if likely not as well-made as the original Seki-City ones).

Gaston
 
Gaston444 said:
"Balance" is only important in a dagger if you are going to throw it.
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Not true at all. Just like any other knife, the balance in a dagger is important. Where it is will affect how "lively" the knife feels in one's hand. You dont want a front heavy dagger that's balanced like a chopper. Because it's not a chopper.

I don't know what "tricks and training" is either, but that United Cutlery is a good choice...for actual, or even potential, use I would get something else that was halfway decent ... but for "tricks and training", and jumping around the basement going "Wu-shaa!", the cheaper the better. I take it you own one already, Vsnake?
 
marcinek said:
I don't know what "tricks and training" is either, but that United Cutlery is a good choice...for actual, or even potential, use I would get something else that was halfway decent ... but for "tricks and training", and jumping around the basement going "Wu-shaa!", the cheaper the better. I take it you own one already, Vsnake?
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This. For dulling and playing with anything will do really. If you want an actual quality dagger you won't find one from United Cutlery.
 
I'd suggest the Applegate / Fairbairn Combat Dagger, from Boker. It may be just a bit handle heavy, but pretty well balanced for about $130 - 150.
 
Daniel Dorn said:
I'd suggest the Applegate / Fairbairn Combat Dagger, from Boker. It may be just a bit handle heavy, but pretty well balanced for about $130 - 150.
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Daniel Dorn is right.. that A/F dagger from Boker is a phenomenon. Probably the best handling dagger I ever owned, and I've owned a butt-load.

AND, you can spend the extra 13 dollars and get an Applegate / Fairbairn trainer to play with, which will help with the "tricks and training" part.

I recommend One Stop Knife Shop... they'll have the knife and trainer both.

Marcinek is right... balance is ridiculously important with these pieces. " A bit handle heavy" is good stuff in this case.

Craytab is also right... United Cutlery isn't going to offer you anything quality in this arena.
 
By tricks I meant blade manipulation (you know finger passes, flips) and balance point and weight is extremely important as you will not do well with a really light one or really heavy one. I also own spears, katanas, karambits and I've got some experience. And yes I already own a knife that's probably the best for this task but I was curious if there is a better one. As I said I don't care about quality people that much. Balance point and weight are my priorities. The A/F one looks great but if I were actually to buy it I would buy a sharp version beacuse trainer would just fell out of my hand while doing basic tricks. I appreciate every single response thank you guys and I'm not going to run around saying "Wu-shaaa!". I'm gonna play around with it. For self defense I have other knives.
 
It may be too light and slim, but the Cold Steel Counter Tac has good blade steel, good balance, a grippy handle and runs <$80(larger size) and <$60(smaller size).
 
Mercworx Shiva. Big, heavy dagger, so not sure how many flips you'll be able to do with it.
 
Well your profile shows you're 16 and "a pretty dangerous person." A military dagger is a weapon (carrying a weapon is a felony in many places), in a shoulder harness under your jacket, it's concealed (worse felony) and at 16, you can be charged as an adult. When I was your age I carried a large bowie and did tricks with a pocket knife and a throwing knife, but the laws and cops were a lot more relaxed. Even then, I only did it at home or in the woods. Be careful :)
 
Don't worry about me brownshoe :) I only do tricks at home and in the woods as you and for edc I carry cold steel tokyo spike neck knife. Law in my country doesn't care about knives unless I commit a crime with them. According to my law I can freely walk around with any type of bladed weapon UNLESS it's concealed(Yes a machete or a katana is perfectly if you are not swinging it like a mad man.
 
Km5000 is well balanced.
I also like how it's guard allows for different thumb positions.
That you can disassemble it using a coin or a big screwdriver is a nice bonus. Allows to clean out sticky soft drinks from handle and tang or to apply oil where on most other daggers the sun doesn't shine.
The tang itself has no sharp transitions to the blade and thus those gentle curves create no stress risers. The only bad part about the KM5000 is the crappy coating. However even that wasn't so bad for me personally since I strip blades anyways and the worse the coating the easier it is to remove.



Another interesting looking one is the Pugio from ER
 
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