Concealed weapons permit and prescription medications.

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alyks

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Hi, I currently life in Arizona right now, and I was wondering about one of the rules for applying for a permit.

This requirement:
"Not a user of or addicted to any controlled substance."

A controlled substance is defined as anything scheduled. Currently, I have a two prescriptions. One for Alprazolam, which is schedule 4, and one for Adderall, which is schedule 2. I use both of these medications for legitimate use, and have no record of prior substance abuse.

Would they deny me getting a permit?
 
why would you even say what you take?It's from a doctor.they mean illegal drugs anyway. and if someone is stupid enough to put that on their application then ...Well DUH!!! what if you broke something and are on strong pain meds? it's just to see if someone is stupid enough to say,''Oh yeah I'm on dope''.
 
Well, for one many states are allowed to review your medical records when you apply for a CCW permit. My state of Arkansas being one of them. If they asked you on the application, which I doubt they will, you probably don't want to lie about it.

What they are asking is if you are using illegally, and the answer, of course, is no.
 
What they are asking is if you are using illegally, and the answer, of course, is no.
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From the quote provided by alyks, it may be read more broadly. When I read it, I got the impression they want to know not only if you use drugs illegally, but also legitimately. For example, I'm guessing they may deny a permit to someone prescribed anti-psychotics, on the basis that the person may be mentally unstable. Caution may be warrented in answering the question. perhaps a lawyer could be consulted.
 
According to the manufacturer's website, "Alprazolam is used to treat anxiety disorders and panic attacks."

I don't want to get into personal medical details here and I don't want to be seen as saying anything disparaging about Mr. alyks since I know him not. BUT, I do have to question whether someone who is under a doctor's care for anxiety disorder or panic attacks should be carrying a concealed weapon, possibly a firearm.

Possible side effects include:
irritability
memory problems
confusion
problems with coordination
seeing things or hearing voices that do not exist (hallucinating)
difficulty urinating
 
Gollnick said:
According to the manufacturer's website, "Alprazolam is used to treat anxiety disorders and panic attacks."

I don't want to get into personal medical details here and I don't want to be seen as saying anything disparaging about Mr. alyks since I know him not. BUT, I do have to question whether someone who is under a doctor's care for anxiety disorder or panic attacks should be carrying a concealed weapon, possibly a firearm.

Possible side effects include:
irritability
memory problems
confusion
problems with coordination
seeing things or hearing voices that do not exist (hallucinating)
difficulty urinating
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:eek: :eek: :eek:
Wow . . . whatever happened to good old-fashioned tranquillizers?

Anxiety and panic = high probability of:
1.) accidental discharge,
2.) firing w/o a positive ID of target (i.e., family member rather than burglar),
3.) drawing under inappropriate circumstances,
4.) collateral damage due to inadequate fire control,
5.) JAIL.

Get pepperspray or an ASP baton instead . . . please.
 
Gollnick said:
According to the manufacturer's website, "Alprazolam is used to treat anxiety disorders and panic attacks."

I don't want to get into personal medical details here and I don't want to be seen as saying anything disparaging about Mr. alyks since I know him not. BUT, I do have to question whether someone who is under a doctor's care for anxiety disorder or panic attacks should be carrying a concealed weapon, possibly a firearm.

Possible side effects include:
irritability
memory problems
confusion
problems with coordination
seeing things or hearing voices that do not exist (hallucinating)
difficulty urinating
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Ok, you're an idiot. Alprazolam doesn't cause hallucinations. Hallucinations are caused by weird sensory information in the brain, Alprazolam doesn't effect that. Any of the other side effects would happen... when your dosages get near overdose, which is MUCH more than any doctor would or could prescribe.


tyr_shadowblade said:
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Wow . . . whatever happened to good old-fashioned tranquillizers?

Anxiety and panic = high probability of:
1.) accidental discharge,
2.) firing w/o a positive ID of target (i.e., family member rather than burglar),
3.) drawing under inappropriate circumstances,
4.) collateral damage due to inadequate fire control,
5.) JAIL.

Get pepperspray or an ASP baton instead . . . please.
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General anxiety disorder is characterized by excessive and uncontrollable worry about everyday things. Mental doubt about things in your life. I have known several people unmedicated who have this disorder.
Social anxiety disorder is characterized by excessive worrying about how people perceive you.
Obsessive compusive disorder is when a person has obsessive thoughts over a varity of things.

There are many people like this that when put into a high-stress situation, react the very same way as everybody else. Andrenaline and instincts.

I submit that you know nothing about psychiatric disorders. Or even what I'm using it for.
 
You can: 1.) lie and probably get your permit. 2.) tell the truth and a.) get the CCW because the bureaucracy will skip over your acknowledgement or b.) be denied based on your use of scheduled drugs or c.) you'll get the permit anyway, because the restricted drugs the law was intended to detect don't match your medications.
 
Some other ideas:

1. Go into an Arizona gun shop (not the one you want to buy in) and ask.
2. Or phone a few and ask.

3. Contact an Arizona attorney who deals with issues regarding carry permits.

It may cost you a couple of hundred bucks, but you'll get a clear and definite answer. But it might cost you nothing.

You're dealing with a question of Arizona law here. Best place to get an answer is from an Arizona lawyer.

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Lying on an this kind of application can most likely put your ass in prison for years - no doubt you sign it "under penalties for perjury".

Easiest/best approach is to just get some professional advice before proceeding. Then you can make an informed decision. :cool:
 
I dispense these drugs (and similar substances) every day and assure you that - used correctly - these side effects are extremely rare. Adderall is used to treat ADHD (most commonly) and Narcolepsy, Alprazolam (many of us know it as Xanax) is frequently used as a sleep aid and, of course, to calm people going to the dentist or flying across country. The responders to this thread rub elbows with people on one - or both - of these medications every day. Most would be too embarrassed to admit it because of common misimpressions (though I understand them). If you want advice, don't talk to a lawyer; call your physician's office. It's cool that you were so candid.
 
Agreed with Rotifer that calling your physician is a good idea too. He or she may know whether these prescription meds - which are nonetheless controlled substances - have any bearing on being able to get an Arizona permit.
 
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