I believe I read somewhere that these would be a pre-order. They are K18 remains, so I think there are 120 or 130 of those, so in theory, should be the same amount of these daggers. I, for one, am in favor of a pre-order on these. Friday sales are fun, and I have had my ups and downs with those. But a "one time" pre order on these would give at least a few minutes to put in a order. Also, it could be limited to one per customer, where as the Friday sales have many of the same winners for consecutive sales when new platforms are launched. Anyway, I just need a time and a place to try and grab one of these and I'll be there !!!